Ranger help
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The problem with this spec is: You are very weak in mele-combats. So you need to have stealthe at skill50 (with items and realrank). Otherwise all other stealthers will see you for a very large distance. I think 35 bow should be enough...mor bowspec doesnt give much more dmg (is you are german, read the old 4players-forum-articles) And you should have 18 skillpoints in cd for the sidestyle-stun. But try it...respecs doesnt cost too much  |
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Hi Edgtho! Thx for the tip! That would give: - 39 blades - 36 stealth - 35 cd - 42 path - 12 bow At the moment i have: - 39 blades - 36 stealth - 22 CD - 50 path - 12 bow You think this 35 cd does this much more dmg than the 22 cd, so its worth not to have red dmg-add, red dex/qui and red selfstrenght ? I played with the charplan program and found another nice spec like this: - 35 blades - 35 stealth - 42 CD - 40 path - 12 bow Hmm, maybe i try this with rr5 then  Greetings Yol |
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I respecced yesterday from
42 CD, 40 Path, 35 pierce, 35 stealth and 12 bow to to 48 Path, 44 pierce, 35 stealth, 18 cd and 12 bow. My dex raised from 308 tp 320 buffed. From my first impression, the damage over time is equal to my privious spec. Ironically, the pierce styles are much better than those from CD. With the exeption of the side chain. However, I clearly notice a reduction in offhand hits, which is compensated a little bit by the better damage add and the better weapon skill (dmg). Realy nice is the last speed burst spell. Most assassins will try to run out of range when hit by bow. With the speed spell you easly can catch them. Nevertheless, for high RR Ranger, CD is the line to go. Most probably you want to have 44 to 50.   |
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If more Rangers spec'd like that I wouldn't have a problem with your class.
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same here lesser your pf from 46 to 42 or better 40 and higher your stealth minimum 35 (rr5) and minimum 18 cd (sidestun) the restu can put into pierce : 40pf 35stealth 45bow 26pierce 18cd for example mfg -l- Edgtho -l- |
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50 Composite Stealth
48 Path max Recurve Bow rest Piercing is the way to go for me since RR5L7 and I´m having a lot of fun with my Lurikeen Recurve ******. Most of your targets will be other realms sneaking classes and tbh, every points more than restpoints spent in melee are wasted. Most asassins going for viper3 which means 120damage each tick, to counter this massive amount of damage you need at least Purge or Ignore Pain. Even both if you want to stand some proper survival versus viper3 classes while meleeing. Better max out your bow damage, concentrate on RAs like: 1)MoS5 2)LW2 3)augDEX or FE which are "must have" for a sniper. Learn to kite and avoid every melee rumble was the hardest thing to learn for me and I´m still having some small performing issues, hehe. There´s several archery bugs on Uthgard which you need to get used to but in the end I´d recommend this setup to everyone rolling a ranger. Satas Hakx - various artists
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Lol, escpacially Hunters shouldn't have any problem with Rangers. The main reason why Ranger pwn Assassins is DW halves evade and IP3 + purge > Viper3. Hunter can spec high PD and Thoughness just like Ranger and will be as tough in melee. When I played classic live, there were some melee Hunters giving me a realy hard fight with my nightshade, before the pet love patch and even without backstun-strafing. |
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DW is a superior damage mechanic to 2hand by a large margin. This has been proven on these forums countless times. All things being equal (skill, RAs, template, everything) a high CD spec Ranger should beat a high 2hand spec Hunter every time. Swinging often with two weapons means faster over-all attack speed, more off-hand damage per fight, greater benefit from the damage add, and more chances to proc. You also have access to the best positional chain of any archer class. Speccing high in weapon will undermine all those advantages, in exchange for some different styles.  Last edited by Seyha on Dec 13, 2010 13:28, edited 5 times in total.
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Me too. Bow rangers are easy to kill when they aren't emoting from camouflage or adding. It's the most balanced version of the class.
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DW does 125 to ~160% while 2-handed does 125% base damage compared to 1-hand. However, style damage is only applied to mainhand, and, as far as I know, spear has a much more better anytimer than CD. And you need to spec in 2-lines, instead of 2. On live, hunter would do compareable damage due to the pet. On Uthgard of course the damage of the pet is gimped. And even as Hib-player and Ranger I would support a improved pet for Hunters as currently on live  |
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It doesn't work like that. The 2hand bonus is 10% + 1/2% per point in weapon spec. So a Hunter with 50+20 Spear would get a 45% bonus to damage. But because of the weird formula DAoC uses to calculate damage based on attack speed this bonus is reduced a lot. For a high quickness class like the Hunter, the actual damage bonus from 2hand is much lower than many people realize. The biggest advantage for a DW/CD class is not the off-hand damage, but the faster attack speed you get for the main-hand when you swing with both weapons. That's why people combine a slow main-hand with a fast off-hand.
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For Bow-Ranger I would say:
rr4: 45 Bow 36 Stealth (no clue why some Stealthers spec 35 Stealth from the beginning, I like to have 50 Comp Stealth asap) 48 Path Rest Weapon WEARING A SHIELD As Lurikeen Bow-Ranger with red dex/qui you can block very much. When your kite-tactic fails you have a decent Def. I would go Pierce. The Blade-version of this "Shield"-spec would be 45 Bow 36 Stealth 40 Path 32 Blades (After-Block stun for more Kite) My personal Meele-Ranger is specced on rr4: 42 Path (40 is enough) 36 Stealth 36 Pierce 38 CD (raise to 40 when Path is lower) It's a decent spec for Meele. If you go Hybrid I would go: 31 Path (should be enough too, but maybe some Charges/pots will be used here) 36 Weapon 36 Stealth 35 Bow 34 CD Nearly Composite on all and decent CD. RAs: At least MoS 3 (Bow Ranger should use MoS 4 or 5) PD (at lower rr PD3 should do it) Purge (learn to time Purge 1, is enough mostly) IP I myself specced PD 3, Tough 3, MoS 3, Purge 1, next up IP1. I like toughness because it's for magic too, not only Meele like PD. So better vs casts and Viper. In addition to that, Tough is better for IP (more heal cause it's %-heal) Do it like you prefer^^ Kind regards, Fin |
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Hm, for Hybrid I would go to 40 Path, 39 weapon 35 stealth 35 bow 19 cd |
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hi
what´s about 33 Stealth 34 Pierce 35 Bow 29 CD 40 Pf for an hybrid spec? lg |
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Fooling around with the charbuilder I found this one like the most interesting without AT:
Hybrid Ranger Spec: Pathfinding = 40 Stealth = 35 Bow = 35 Celtic Dual = 18 Piercing = 37 Months without playing DAoC... my fingers are switching imaginary chants. I hope my AlbionHouse doesn't get evicted... want a NVidia... NOW! |
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