SC Costs - General opinion
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So you made over a plat an hour solo, doing something at your own pace, being able to start and stop as you please, and being able to do it without leaving a house or city and that's suppose to sound like a bad deal? Its a good thing you went with a Spellcrafter because nobody else can say things like "I'll only craft for a minimum of a plat an hour and that's fair" lmao get outta here. What other way besides that is someone gonna sit down solo for 1 evening and make 5 plat reliably and consistently. Maybe if I had zero need for plat I'd think the same way, but if that was the case I'd just not take any orders because otherwise I might turn as bitter about it as all of you. |
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No it was not a bad deal but a fair deal and not overpriced. Under a plat/h would be a "bad deal" which is often done for guildmates and friends ofc.
As druid, team up with an ench and grind the gobospot, maybe a manamenta 44+ for red pom if you dont want to use pots, and divide the salvageloot evenly. Voilà money inc....or become a spellcrafter yourself, druids can do that  Yes as crafter you have the advantage to be rather independent from others (besides the need of finding a client when you have time) but only after investing a lot of time and money in becoming legendary. The "own pace and being able to start and stop as you please" applies maybe for guildmates and friends but not for most other customers who pay the full price. They mostly require it to be done ASAP and might change the spellcrafter if you take longer than a day unannounced. Also Spellcrafters have no real means of income before they turn legendary, neither craft tasks nor trinketing possible at all. |
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This is simple.. if you dont like the prices out there, make your own damn LGM SC and stop complaining. Otherwise, a market determines the price. Get over it
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I'm genuinely flummoxed that people are complaining about prices that have been set for about 16 years.... there is a reason the prices are what they are and haven't changed much (except on live where they were like 750g per piece about 8 years ago, christ knows what they are now).
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He doesn't sound bitter. In fact, the only toxic opinion in this thread I've seen (ignoring the cave troll ofc), is coming from you. Rather than just keep re-posting that you find prices unacceptably too high, and your claims of making a SCer with low costs for all the realm to enjoy. So, please go and do it, make your Legendary SCer, tell us your in game name so we can all expect our orders from you to do it quickly, at practically mat cost and without whining. Until then can you please tell us what you *think* would be a fair charge per item, or system for charging - rather than attacking others and offering nothing to the thread. - Inqy/Spymistress/Sly -
GM of "eXPedient demise" | Slave of "Crows of Winter" |
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Gonna post what i've gone through on my chars, and why i did it... I have a tailor/salvager ench.... and an ani sc, salvaging i make 1+ an hour consistently solo, think i made 1p in 30 mins a few times, but thats just luck i guess (*wink* *wink* pre drop nerf)... its fun to farm from time to time, sit there relax and wait for mobs to spawn etc...
Now the sc char, i leveled it (which was a ******* grind), started sc'ing, did a few jobs for guildies at mats price.... and after 3 jobs i said.... never again, it takes time, its, more painful for me than running on my ench and just nuking mobs, + the occasional blow up.... 1%, but still happens. Prices are good at 300-400g, i wouldnt do it for less, even for guildies. Cos at the end of the day, its down to how you want to spend your time, and sc takes time, like any other farming. Give it a go, make an sc char, check out how long it takes you to get to lgm, and after that, see if you can be bothered with actually making it for people (who sometimes dont know how to make templates and want help etc.... ) |
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Already have. Took the 700 SC idea that was proposed in the thread, and already got him 700. Have 66 items to spellcraft (264 total gems) I've optimized the templates such that there will be only 17 gems I can't make as oppose to the 35ish that they originally had. So we'll get 247 (~93%) gems at cost as oppose to about 4x cost.
In the process of making the 99% gems we'll need now. My rough estimate is this will save 14 plat total, so I'll let you know when I finish if I really feel I deserved 14 plat for my effort (which is about 25% of the total gold my group made going 1-50 btw...) but my gut is telling me it will only confirm you're full of it. Look nowhere here did I tell anyone what they should charge. If you can charge 400 gold per and people are dumb and/or lazy enough to pay it, you'd be even dumber not to do it. That still doesn't mean it's not overpriced as hell. This is just a case for me (which parallels the real world go figure) where because dumb people exist, it's almost always better to just do it yourself. Last edited by Keith Johnson on Mar 24, 2017 15:41, edited 2 times in total.
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So you are offering material cost for scing 99% gems to all of Hibernia? This is what you are saying? Otherwise please offer an opinion of what you would charge and details of how people could contact you as it sounds like you will be the cheapest SCer available.
- Inqy/Spymistress/Sly -
GM of "eXPedient demise" | Slave of "Crows of Winter" |
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Again I'll let you know when I'm done crafting the gems how I feel. But right now I'd probably charge total material cost +125g per item. Makes a set of 8 a clean plat + materials, only assuming I work at my own pace and let you know when it's ready. Knowing my meticulous nature I'd probably even give you a spreadsheet of exactly how many tries each gem took with cost of each lol. That being said as I stated earlier I would only take orders if I actually needed money. Otherwise that's like being comfortably retired yet still deciding to work at a job you hatr and complaining about how they don't pay you enough... |
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Sorry I seriously had to laugh out loud
 You will most likely stay at your beliefs/ come to the conclusion that SC is fast and cheap when you only do the low gems  But everybody is entitled to have their own opinion.Still, it is a good approach to save you some plat, thumbs up  Its also good to see that the general opinion, to get back to the original topic, seems essentially not to differ from what I posted. Since I get paid enough when I accept a job or have the knowledge that I will profit in other means from a temp I do when its for friends/guildmates, I do not hate my job as Spellcrafter  Last edited by Uzkrak on Mar 24, 2017 17:09, edited 1 time in total.
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Yep, with the exception of KJ, the general consensus is roughly the same in terms of costs, effort, etc.
- Inqy/Spymistress/Sly -
GM of "eXPedient demise" | Slave of "Crows of Winter" |
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Just as a comparison to alchemy, it takes what? 10 mins or so to craft last reactive procs for armour, and generally people want 300g for it, which is decent, some go higher, and people do still buy... you need 6 for armour, thats like 270g of profit in 10 mins...
+ as an alchemist you can stock up on mhb/af reactives, and imbue them even faster... So ye, i wouldnt say 400g is expensive vs time spent for sc... |
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Idk what SCer would make the perfect gems for anything less than the normal OC cost. The mats are expensive, the timers are long, and there are much better ways to make plats per hour when you do a regular order.
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In the end we made all but 13 flawless and perfect gems with our ~740 SCer. The 13 flawless and perfect we got for about 200g per. 66 imbues at 50 per and the cost of the 251/264 gems we made on our own was probably ~5p. So in the end ~11-12p to do 8 templates with 66 total items. 400 per would've been nearly 30plat. |
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