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Postby Neni » Dec 04, 2010 15:26

Hello, so I'm quite new to DAoC and decided to roll a ranger, a friend told me I should go melee for the Autotrain points, I want to know what would be a good spec for a melee ranger for all the battleground, brae, wilt, thid and since I made a ranger for it's bow what would be a good hybrid/sniper spec? Thanks

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Postby Garad » Dec 04, 2010 21:52

During leveling:
# Keep weapon close to level
# keep pathfinding high enough for the best buffs
# If you have any points left, put them into stealth

Spec for e.g. lvl 35 could look like: 34 weapon, 8 CD (for the back style snare ) 31 path, 15 stealth

My final lvl 50 melee ranger spec: 42 CD, 35 pierce, 40 path, 35 stealth, 12 bow (autotrain)

Hybrid spec e.g.
39 pierce, 18 CD, 35 bow, 35 stealth, 40 path
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Postby Neni » Dec 04, 2010 23:43

I see thanks! I've already specced up in CD up to 23 so the closest I can get to the 35 spec is

30 pierce, 30 path, 8 stealth and obviously 23 CD and what ever I'll have in AT bow, I don't mind about the low stealth for now

Should I respec out of CD or will this be alright?

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Postby Garad » Dec 05, 2010 08:35

Neni wrote:I see thanks! I've already specced up in CD up to 23 so the closest I can get to the 35 spec is

30 pierce, 30 path, 8 stealth and obviously 23 CD and what ever I'll have in AT bow, I don't mind about the low stealth for now

Should I respec out of CD or will this be alright?


If you want to play in the BGs, you will find stealth very helpfull. Otherwise you dont neet to raise it.
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Postby Yol » Dec 05, 2010 12:53

With lev 50 as a rr4 Ranger:

-50 Pathfinding
-39 Blades
-22 Celtic dual
-36 stealth
- no points in bow...ok you get 12 points from autotrain then ;)

Best spec for Melee, good chance to kill all other stealthers.
You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:

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Postby Neni » Dec 06, 2010 10:10

Yol wrote:You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:


I know mos is a must, went in brae and I didn't see them damn assassins sneaking up on me :( still killed the son of a bi*tch though 8) - What other realm abilities should I get?

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Postby Garad » Dec 06, 2010 10:47

Yol wrote:With lev 50 as a rr4 Ranger:

-50 Pathfinding
-39 Blades
-22 Celtic dual
-36 stealth
- no points in bow...ok you get 12 points from autotrain then ;)


For blade spec rangers, this spec might be fine. But for pierce, I would not spec 50 path ;) Although I currently think about 48 path, 44 pierce, 18 CD and 35 stealth (+12 bow autotrain). But I realy would miss Tempest ... :-(

You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:
oO I can find 90% of assassin vanishing already with MoS 2. But after my experience with MoS 2, I would suggest MoS 3 as a good choise. For hybrid or bow ranger you want minimum MoS 4 of course ;)
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Postby Garad » Dec 06, 2010 10:51

Neni wrote:
Yol wrote:You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:


I know mos is a must, went in brae and I didn't see them damn assassins sneaking up on me :( still killed the son of a bi*tch though 8) - What other realm abilities should I get?


Depends on your playstyles. When you want to play bow, go MoS ... and MoS and even more MoS! :) For bow its first all about MoS.

For Melee, I would spec MoS 2 or 3. At level 50, you want at least purge 1 and IP 2 to survive skilled or high RR assassins. Physical defense and Thoughness is nice to have too.
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Postby -l- Edgtho -l- » Dec 06, 2010 13:52

Yol wrote:With lev 50 as a rr4 Ranger:

-50 Pathfinding
-39 Blades
-22 Celtic dual
-36 stealth
- no points in bow...ok you get 12 points from autotrain then ;)

Best spec for Melee, good chance to kill all other stealthers.
You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:



ololololololololo never heared such a bullsh!t ^^

my lvl 50 ranger got :
50cd
27blades
31stealth
39path
12bow(at)

i am rr8 now, at rr4-7 i got 40 cd and 39 blades for the dehaste bladecombo

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Postby Neni » Dec 06, 2010 19:32

Eventually I'll respec to bow, main reason for rolling the ranger actually

anyway like I said I'm quite new to this game and I've got one more noobish kinda question to ask in regards with damage - I had a quick spin in the level 20 - 35 battle ground earlier, I'm level 32 but I don't seem to do much damage, even on people lower level than myself, how can I increase my damage? - my friend told me to get crafted weapons but is there anything else that can help me?

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Postby Yol » Dec 06, 2010 19:52

Garad wrote:
Yol wrote:With lev 50 as a rr4 Ranger:

-50 Pathfinding
-39 Blades
-22 Celtic dual
-36 stealth
- no points in bow...ok you get 12 points from autotrain then ;)


For blade spec rangers, this spec might be fine. But for pierce, I would not spec 50 path ;) Although I currently think about 48 path, 44 pierce, 18 CD and 35 stealth (+12 bow autotrain). But I realy would miss Tempest ... :-(

You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:
oO I can find 90% of assassin vanishing already with MoS 2. But after my experience with MoS 2, I would suggest MoS 3 as a good choise. For hybrid or bow ranger you want minimum MoS 4 of course ;)


For a pierce ranger 50 path would not that important...there you are right. As you sayed: 48 path should be fine then.
I had mos3 for a longer timeperiod and now since i have mos4 i LOVE it. I can find other stealthers much easier. It makes a big difference. And if i am 4l4 i will try mos5. Its very very nice if you got camo up und can open a fight with sidestun because you are fast enough to get on a stealthers side as he is walking in stealth (sry about my crap english...i hope you understand what i mean)

But a ranger without purge and without ip and without physical defence is very weak :( I will se whats better.

But must be nice to stealth from ligen to AMG much faster then now.... and if you take a ride on a horse you get ganked every second try to reach the f...ing AMG :oops:

I would like to vote for teleport to emain for hibs :)

Greetings
Yol

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Postby Yol » Dec 06, 2010 19:58

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:
Yol wrote:With lev 50 as a rr4 Ranger:

-50 Pathfinding
-39 Blades
-22 Celtic dual
-36 stealth
- no points in bow...ok you get 12 points from autotrain then ;)

Best spec for Melee, good chance to kill all other stealthers.
You should get mos4 as soon as possible then...so no assasines can vanish away :twisted:



ololololololololo never heared such a bullsh!t ^^

my lvl 50 ranger got :
50cd
27blades
31stealth
39path
12bow(at)

i am rr8 now, at rr4-7 i got 40 cd and 39 blades for the dehaste bladecombo


With 27 in blades you reach at rr8 only (27+7+11 = 45) 45 in Weaponspec. Wyred-Spec says: 51 in Weaponspec is a MUST.

So far for the bullsh!t as you told me :wall:
And only 39 path on a classic-server with NO buffbots...nah...i cant the right words for this...or i would get a ban here :P

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Postby Yol » Dec 06, 2010 20:06

Neni wrote:Eventually I'll respec to bow, main reason for rolling the ranger actually

anyway like I said I'm quite new to this game and I've got one more noobish kinda question to ask in regards with damage - I had a quick spin in the level 20 - 35 battle ground earlier, I'm level 32 but I don't seem to do much damage, even on people lower level than myself, how can I increase my damage? - my friend told me to get crafted weapons but is there anything else that can help me?


Check your char-stats. There you see how many strenght and dexterity you have. You should have this capped. And your friend is right! Its very very important that you use weapons wich have:

-the right level for you (weapon should be orange for you)
-a quality near by 99% if possible
-weapons should be repaired if you use them for a while
-your weaponskill should be on your level. Like: Your spec in Blades or piercing should be at lev 32 (with +skills from your gear)

DAOC is not easy for beginners. You should find a nice guild with members who tell you the machanics of the game.
Dont give up! You will LOVE this wonderful game...

If your german pls write a PN to me...i could explain this things much better in german language :cry:

Best wishes!
Yol

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Postby Neni » Dec 06, 2010 20:22

Yeah my stats are capped :)

I'll have to look around for a weaponcrafter then, I'll also have to get used to the skills too

Hopefully I shall get better soon :)

I'm english and your english isn't too bad :)

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Postby Garad » Dec 06, 2010 23:11

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:my lvl 50 ranger got :
50cd
27blades
31stealth
39path
12bow(at)

i am rr8 now, at rr4-7 i got 40 cd and 39 blades for the dehaste bladecombo


If Uthgard similar to live, 50 CD is a waste of points, since the 50 CD styles damage depends on pierce/blunt/slash spec rather than on CD spec. Hence, 44 CD should be max., while 40 path should be minimum spec for the yellow dex/qui to hot the soft cap of 250 qui for shars/celts.

IMHO I would also prefer pierce rather than slash. Good assassins will use str-base, str/con and disease debuff against you and nullify your main weapon stat. (Ok, since WS has currently no influence on evade this is in fact not hurting so much as it shoud do).
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