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Kryss
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Postby Kryss » Sep 18, 2011 16:03

Just a quick question on OH blade choices for ranger/bm

I guess that the only acceptable 100% qua option is a crafted MP. Maybe Brimstone Short Sword, but I'm not a fan of Dd procs.
Any other ideas? U could get a Sheeroe drop with lifedrain, but it's 95% qua and it seems to me it's not really worth the "Uthalis boost"

Any other ideas?

Thanks :)

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Artefact
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Postby Artefact » Sep 18, 2011 20:45

If you play in groupe, you'd rather use dd proc for dmg output, and if solo get lifedrain or dot.

about the blade, crafted one is better from my pov.
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Postby Kryss » Sep 19, 2011 00:11

Ye, I almost play solo so i prefer dots and lifedrain :)
As for the sword ye, I think the only viable option is MP, unless someone can find any other "strange" option i didn't think about :)
Btw, no blade offhands in Taj, right?

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Postby Kwicsilver » Sep 20, 2011 05:51

Quick question, what weapon speeds are ideal to use for ranger (templated at 50, say level 40 dex/quick buff)? I'm not familiar with Celtic Dual mechanics. Do you want to match the main hand and off-hand weapon speed? (why or why not? :D)

Thanks!

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testytesty1234
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Postby testytesty1234 » Sep 21, 2011 05:13

With dex qui buff, +75qui ij temp and maybe haste pot you can get away with a slow mainhand. Like a 3.9/4.0

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Postby Austerim » Sep 21, 2011 05:16

I use slow mainhand and slow offhand on my Ranger (3.9 and 3.3). Works well with self buffs and blue haste. :D
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Postby syuveil » Sep 22, 2011 16:46

Hey ;) i use 4,2 blade mainhand and 2,5 offhand its works well too with d/q selfbuff and yellow 17% haste :) and y tajendi have no offhand blade ;/ and df only the brimstone one but he isnt bad with at least a heat proc and a cool Glow ;D hehe

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Postby Kryss » Sep 22, 2011 17:27

Hey Syuv,

I'm still debating on the spd. Isn't 2.5 too fast with yellow haste and selfbuff? I was thinking about a 2.9 or 3.1

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Postby syuveil » Sep 22, 2011 19:12

hey kryss

2,5 is fast y but the dmg is still okay ;) but 2,9 as example works really well to i test it with the Basalt Blade (4,2speed) and the Brimstone Blade (2,9speed) the dmg is really good and the speed is fast enought ... and i like the both Glows hehe

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Postby Moondragon1 » Sep 23, 2011 04:59

I think the argument for a fast off-hand is that % chance to swing it is calculated much more often than a slow off-hand weapon. Whereas with a main-hand weapon which will swing every time (thus a slow weapon works better), the offhand you want the chance to swing as much as possible. I suppose if you have 50 CD your chance to swing gets high enough that you don't have to worry about it as much, and could go for a slower off-hand.

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Postby Ridifool » Sep 27, 2011 03:25

Moondragon1 wrote:I think the argument for a fast off-hand is that % chance to swing it is calculated much more often than a slow off-hand weapon. Whereas with a main-hand weapon which will swing every time (thus a slow weapon works better), the offhand you want the chance to swing as much as possible. I suppose if you have 50 CD your chance to swing gets high enough that you don't have to worry about it as much, and could go for a slower off-hand.


? Chance to swing-off hand has nothing to do with weapon speed. There is a base chance for dual-wielders to swing-offhand and training in CD increases that chance. When you DO swing off-hand, the next swing takes into account off-hand weapon speed and averages it for the following swing *artificially hastening* that swing without reducing mainhand damage.
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Postby Kryss » Sep 28, 2011 15:11

SO now I have to choose between 3.1, 2.9 or 2.5. I think that with Basalt blade MH, 3.1 might be really too slow, even with 17% haste. Suggestions?

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Postby Artefact » Oct 02, 2011 23:36

Ridifool wrote:
Moondragon1 wrote:I think the argument for a fast off-hand is that % chance to swing it is calculated much more often than a slow off-hand weapon. Whereas with a main-hand weapon which will swing every time (thus a slow weapon works better), the offhand you want the chance to swing as much as possible. I suppose if you have 50 CD your chance to swing gets high enough that you don't have to worry about it as much, and could go for a slower off-hand.


? Chance to swing-off hand has nothing to do with weapon speed. There is a base chance for dual-wielders to swing-offhand and training in CD increases that chance. When you DO swing off-hand, the next swing takes into account off-hand weapon speed and averages it for the following swing *artificially hastening* that swing without reducing mainhand damage.


No he was right.
if you affect a probability to an evenement, the more you repeat it the more you will produce the evenement.
Probability law.

So statisticaly, the faster you hit the more you will hit with offhand.

Anyway i will underline that offhand hit is not such a big deal, so it's better to hit faster just to make more mainhand hit ;)

About the blade properly, i would take a 2.5 Crafted MP with DOT proc if you play solo.
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