Ranger meele spec ...plz comment

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Postby Vegnar » Mar 05, 2012 22:38

Hi , I'm learning the game and after speaking to couple of people I decided to ask what is the best possibly spec for a melee ranger. I keep getting different opinions here so i'm confused and hoping to get clarification. Thanks!


Here are the 3 spec I was thinking , the first one is the one I thought was the one I was going for:

36Blades, 42PF , 39 CD, 35 Stealth, 12 Bow
34Blades, 31PF, 50 CD, 34 stealth ,12 Bow
29Blades, 42PF, 44 CD, 35 Stealth, 12 bow

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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 05, 2012 23:06

When asking for ranger advice you really need to take whatever a person tells you with grain of salt. Everyone plays their ranger a lil differently so therefore you end up with unlimited amounts of different specs. I would say either the 1st or 3rd spec's looks fine w/ me. Some prefer higher CD, some prefer higher path, some prefer higher main weapon. You can't have them all so just pick a spec that you like, go with it for awhile, and if you see its not working then tweak as needed.
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Postby Vegnar » Mar 05, 2012 23:29

true i guess the only thing puzzling me is the weapon and or CD skill:

1. does weapon increases your overall dmg? if so then doesn't it make sense to spec as high as you can in weapon? and if it doesn't then what the point of weapon if for example you only use Cd styles?

2. Celtic Dual I'm under the impression that it increases your chances to hit ? but what increases the dmg of CD styles? i plan to mainly use CD styles so I was thinking 50 CD better if it increases the dmg of CD styles.


Anyone can clarify?

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Postby HulkGris » Mar 06, 2012 02:13

If you use only CD style, you don't take any benefit after 51 (skill + bonus) in your weapon spec. Overall damage will increase until u reach this 51.
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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 06, 2012 17:35

What Hulk says is correct. Your main weapon spec does not really give you much if any more dmg once you get above 51 composite spec (including +'s). CD on the other hand will increase your chance to duel hit even over 51 composite.

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Postby Xantham » Mar 07, 2012 06:21

39 blades (melee hinder)
40 PF
35 stealth
38 CD
12 Recurve
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Postby engernerd » Mar 07, 2012 08:03

I havent tried it here yet, but when classics came out on live:

46PF
33Stealth
44Blades
26CD
12Bow (AT)

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Postby Jonah » Mar 07, 2012 15:27

RonELuvv wrote:What Hulk says is correct. Your main weapon spec does not really give you much if any more dmg once you get above 51 composite spec (including +'s). CD on the other hand will increase your chance to duel hit even over 51 composite.


This is the result i come up with comparing different CD specs.

This is with 50+18 CD and 25+18 blades

Squall min: 112 max 161 avg 138

Ice storm min 124 max 176 avg 144

Tempest min 137 max 191 avg 164

And now with 39+18 CD and 25+18 blades

Squall min 108 max 153 avg 130

Ice storm min:115 max 166 avg: 141

Tempest min:128 max: 178 avg: 151

Not that much difference in damage but u get a better damage spectra and some more % in off hand hit. What it makes for hit chance etc i havnt tested but CD dosnt effect WS so it should be the same.

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Postby Badtzmaru » Mar 09, 2012 19:27

I tell you my point of view, which is pretty much uncommon on Uthgard.

First of all, a lot will depends on what style you will play your ranger.
If you will buy a tent and live happily in the surroundings of the emain amg, of course you will need max stealth (50) and a minimum of mos3.
If, like me, you will go around the frontiers to look for your preys, stealth can be lowered a bit because part of your victims will be visible from far away.
In my humble opinion, in a buffbot less server, the highest the self buffs, the better it is, expecially for the ranger that has a self buff line full of useful ones. Also remember that red buffs, give more damage because of the higher base stats, and more damage because of the red dmg add. On top of that you'll evade a bit more with red dex/qui.

If you can accept the idea of having stealth a little bit less than 50, i suggest you, at 4Lx, a spec like this:
37 blades
50 PF
33 stealth
29 CD
12 Recurve

If you think you need 50 stealth, then another possible solution might be this one:
37 blades
46 PF
36 stealth
32 CD
12 Recurve

I'm a piercing ranger and so PF 48 is the perfect value for me, but you are blade, so i'd say it might be better 46 or 50.
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Postby LindsayLohan » Mar 10, 2012 19:21

you can just delete and make a real classe
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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 11, 2012 21:38

Yah, like a reaver or merc that are so underpowered right Lindsay ^^

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Postby Zappo » Mar 13, 2012 18:01

What I ask myself here (especially after Jona's post) is, what about Supernova?

Is it worth its points (why not?) ? Any melee rangers going for it (experiences?)?

Just from feeling and from playing BM a bit, I tend to go for the 2nd specc the OP mentioned. (also, yes burn me, i like to strafe often ^^ so i should get the combo going)

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Postby Kryss » Mar 13, 2012 18:08

I tried 50 CD at RR5+: supernova is nice but I soon respecced out of it. If u are not high RR those points are best spent to keep PF high and/or 35 bow for semi-hybrids. Also, keep in mind that being 3rd style on a 4 sec stun chain u might get evaded/parried/blocked quite a bit.

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Postby RonELuvv » Mar 13, 2012 23:19

Aye, I always tell rangers that unless you are nearly perfect at landing that side stun at will then you should probably not spec 50 cd for Supernova. Yes, supernova is great dmg and its great when it lands, but if you are only getting off one or maybe 2 side chains off in a battle then I think you would be better off, as Kryss stated above, putting those points into higher pathfinding or higher bow for rapid fire. I can perform the side stun pretty well and I would never spec for 50 cd. Ronia on the other hand specs, or was spec'd, for 50 cd, but he lands that side stun like most people land an anytimer.

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Postby Zappo » Mar 14, 2012 15:12

Thanks for answers regarding Supernova. I will just ask Ronia to get a better picture and to train her rusty strafing :D


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