Can anyone tell me what is desired 16man group setup for 16man DR. Also I've been searching for a guide to leading this encounter but I can't find one for uthgard, if anyone can link me to one that'd be great. I've only been on a couple DRs since my return to daoc but I took notes while on the raid it seems fairly straight forwards. I have not been on a 16 man Dr yet, only in public raid.

Pretty tired of crossing my fingers trying to get in pve / rvr groups its time to learn how to lead a raid.. so if anyone has any info I'd much appreciate it.

as many warden with aotg 2 or 3 as possible 2 to 3 anis for the adds.
1 or 2 guardbots rest is pure dps and healpower.
Would also suggest at least 1 pombot becuase not all are willing to charge pom or craft enough pom 4 pots.
how many druids / dps u need compneds from rr of the player.

ani use their shrooms so that the adds cant escape.

rest should be simple and i am to alzy to say the ae stares at the %hp of the dragon.

same goes for mid but there you should use 1 to 2 sm bombs instead of the anis in the middle of the lair and skalds for atog2 / 3.

at alb its the same but wizard instead of sm and theus for petspam. aotg is not that badly needed at alb because you have so many theupets that i would replace the aotg bots with the theus.


That you switch the aotg bots for the maingrp who is main dmg dealer should be clear i guess.

/Edit: Forgot to mention that you can do it also with 11 men. with 14 its smooth and with 16 its kinda easymode if you don't take brainafk-people.

Alright thanks gorim I will probAbly give this a go tonight if I can get the players. Thanks bud.

When I (used to) run private 16-men dragonraids I usually build the two groups like this:

1st grp: bard • druid • druid • hero • bm • bm • aog2+ warden • x (you can fill this spot either with another bm or another aog2+ warden)
2nd grp: druid • druid • mana mentalist • animist • animist • animist • x • x (you can fill those two spots with pretty much whatever you want, I'd reccomend someone to take care of the messengers like bard+valewalker or even a mana enchanter)

Healing power and animists can be decreased if you're looking for a tiny raid, but make sure those people know what they have to do first.
Also make sure to find a good healing MA and to provide the right calls at the right time to prevent a massacre (dragon's aoe, stuns etc)

best advice imo is, join a raid of matix and see how he does it

pweet wrote:best advice imo is, join a raid of matix and see how he does it

Or Maiurus, or Wiesensturm (aka Hornisse, Celte, Mordread), or ... whatever - even Public Raid may help, but its too fast there