Hello, I’m trying to choose a new char for uth 2.0. To do my choice I’ll calculate the usefulness of classes with which I hesitate in a table. You can share your own vision based on my work if you want.

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__________________Warden__BM__Enchant moon___Eld sun___Eld moon___Animist___Menta sun
Solo PVE___________[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[01]______[01]______[03]______[02]____
Solo RVR___________[02]__[01]_____[01]_________[02]______[01]______[02]______[03]____
Small group PVE____[02]__[02]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Small group RVR____[01]__[03]_____[02]_________[03]______[02]______[03]______[03]____
Full group PVE_____[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Full group RVR_____[02]__[03]_____[03]_________[03]______[02]______[00]______[02]____
Raid PVE___________[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Attack/Defense RVR_[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[02]____
Ease to stuff______[00]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[03]____
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Total______________[15]__[18]_____[24]_________[15]______[21]______[23]______[15]____

The result after ranking is :
#1 = Enchant moon
#2 = Animist
#3 = Eld moon
#4 = BM
#5 = Eld sun, Menta sun and Warden

I still hesitate between Enchant moon and BM because if I remember well, in 1.65 casters are in paper and they dead really fast.

Feuille wrote:Hello, I’m trying to choose a new char for uth 2.0. To do my choice I’ll calculate the usefulness of classes with which I hesitate in a table. You can share your own vision based on my work if you want.

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__________________Warden__BM__Enchant moon___Eld sun___Eld moon___Animist___Menta sun
Solo PVE___________[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[01]______[01]______[03]______[02]____
Solo RVR___________[02]__[01]_____[01]_________[02]______[01]______[02]______[03]____
Small group PVE____[02]__[02]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Small group RVR____[01]__[03]_____[02]_________[03]______[02]______[03]______[03]____
Full group PVE_____[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Full group RVR_____[02]__[03]_____[03]_________[03]______[02]______[00]______[02]____
Raid PVE___________[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Attack/Defense RVR_[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[02]____
Ease to stuff______[00]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[03]____
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Total______________[15]__[18]_____[24]_________[15]______[21]______[23]______[15]____

The result after ranking is :
#1 = Enchant moon
#2 = Animist
#3 = Eld moon
#4 = BM
#5 = Eld sun, Menta sun and Warden

I still hesitate between Enchant moon and BM because if I remember well, in 1.65 casters are in paper and they dead really fast.

Moon?!?!?!

french. Moon, sun

Moon = mana, Sun = light

How can a animist can have more utilitty than a warden!
tbh i think that table is wrong... for example in a full group pve in DF will be better a warden o BM than an Animist...
Or what about Full group RvR... Animist should have -3 unless you play with friends noneone will want you...
since bombers + cc + no TS/vent communication is a really bad, bad idea...

???

Animists are the very core of each and every PvE raid. They are irreplaceable.

Juri wrote:???

Animists are the very core of each and every PvE raid. They are irreplaceable.

for raids ( Dragon, Legion) ofc . but for FG farming seals ( money!!) i think is better a tank group.

Depends on how you gonna sealfarm

Roaming around df and killing red/purps, always in movement.
Not so much. Mobs will die before you have your shroomcap up.
- being static on 1 spot for a bigger amount of time with safe area (no autopulls by shrooms^^)
Ani ftw
-Chance to kill named mobs that are on the way
Ani ftw !!!

Feuille wrote:Hello, I’m trying to choose a new char for uth 2.0. To do my choice I’ll calculate the usefulness of classes with which I hesitate in a table. You can share your own vision based on my work if you want.

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__________________Warden__BM__Enchant moon___Eld sun___Eld moon___Animist___Menta sun
Solo PVE___________[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[01]______[01]______[03]______[02]____
Solo RVR___________[02]__[01]_____[01]_________[02]______[01]______[02]______[03]____
Small group PVE____[02]__[02]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Small group RVR____[01]__[03]_____[02]_________[03]______[02]______[03]______[03]____
Full group PVE_____[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Full group RVR_____[02]__[03]_____[03]_________[03]______[02]______[00]______[02]____
Raid PVE___________[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Attack/Defense RVR_[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[02]____
Ease to stuff______[00]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[03]____
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Total______________[15]__[18]_____[24]_________[15]______[21]______[23]______[15]____

The result after ranking is :
#1 = Enchant moon
#2 = Animist
#3 = Eld moon
#4 = BM
#5 = Eld sun, Menta sun and Warden

I still hesitate between Enchant moon and BM because if I remember well, in 1.65 casters are in paper and they dead really fast.

Thanks a lot Feuille, I've been looking for a table like this to solve some doubts i had. GJ
What about hero btw?

Hello Jeaf,

This is how I see hero :

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___________________Hero_
Solo PVE___________[01]_
Solo RVR___________[01]_
Small group PVE____[02]_
Small group RVR____[02]_
Full group PVE_____[03]_
Full group RVR_____[03]_
Raid PVE___________[03]_
Attack/Defense RVR_[01]_
Ease to stuff______[00]_
________________________
Total______________[16]_

What do you think about ?

Feuille wrote:Hello Jeaf,

This is how I see hero :

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___________________Hero_
Solo PVE___________[01]_
Solo RVR___________[01]_
Small group PVE____[02]_
Small group RVR____[02]_
Full group PVE_____[03]_
Full group RVR_____[03]_
Raid PVE___________[03]_
Attack/Defense RVR_[01]_
Ease to stuff______[00]_
________________________
Total______________[16]_

What do you think about ?

I think both Solo pve and rvr could be (02), but I also think it's situational.
In pve: it can be an unstoppable farmer (metal mostly), but i'm not sure it's as good as Enchanter/warden vs Lev 55ish mobs (like some SI / dragon zone nameds).
In rvr: I see it camping walls mostly and looking for fights vs another tank / stealthers. Very tough in 1v1, at mid-high RR it can handle 1v2 too.
I agree with you on the rest, especially when you give 3 points in Full grp pve, Full grp rvr and Raids.

jeaf wrote:

Feuille wrote:Hello, I’m trying to choose a new char for uth 2.0. To do my choice I’ll calculate the usefulness of classes with which I hesitate in a table. You can share your own vision based on my work if you want.

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__________________Warden__BM__Enchant moon___Eld sun___Eld moon___Animist___Menta sun
Solo PVE___________[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[01]______[01]______[03]______[02]____
Solo RVR___________[02]__[01]_____[01]_________[02]______[01]______[02]______[03]____
Small group PVE____[02]__[02]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Small group RVR____[01]__[03]_____[02]_________[03]______[02]______[03]______[03]____
Full group PVE_____[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Full group RVR_____[02]__[03]_____[03]_________[03]______[02]______[00]______[02]____
Raid PVE___________[03]__[03]_____[03]_________[00]______[03]______[03]______[00]____
Attack/Defense RVR_[01]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[02]____
Ease to stuff______[00]__[01]_____[03]_________[03]______[03]______[03]______[03]____
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Total______________[15]__[18]_____[24]_________[15]______[21]______[23]______[15]____

The result after ranking is :
#1 = Enchant moon
#2 = Animist
#3 = Eld moon
#4 = BM
#5 = Eld sun, Menta sun and Warden

I still hesitate between Enchant moon and BM because if I remember well, in 1.65 casters are in paper and they dead really fast.

Thanks a lot Feuille, I've been looking for a table like this to solve some doubts i had. GJ
What about hero btw?

You could add some valency for your personal playstyle preference Like if you prefer group rvr make it count x2.
Or all pve stuff x0,5

Why are animists so bad at Full Group RvR?

Thanks!