This rapier should be dropped in sheeroe by glimmer deathwatchers.
Has anyone seen it ?

This item does not appear to drop from glimmer deathwatchers. Have a source for this?

A more reliable source says otherwise http://www.mindkayak.com/bestiary/mob.jsp?mob=193

Your "more reliable source" might be wrong then.

I have a crazy idea.. lets go back to a publication from the era and look it up there: https://archive.org/stream/Dark_Age_of_ ... 5/mode/2up

That's a cool guide.

I think the guide posted by dabri0n is the most reliable, and it says Glimmer Deathwatchers loot that rapier

Will you add it to their loot table or should i find out what mobs in here on uthgard loot it? :\
Thanks!

If the comment is not lying it pretty obious that the rapier must haven been there in 1.65


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were ez yesterday and got it!
but had to give away again....
so killed ghostly ......things which was able to root dot an others.
with them came knigths and scary somtheings....so sry have a german version dont know exactly names.
but red an purple for lev 50.
they also drop one of this three glittering....stilleto
killed them 3-4 hours and got 2 glitterstilletos and one of this above

Gnome wrote:A more reliable source says otherwise http://www.mindkayak.com/bestiary/mob.jsp?mob=193

600ish recorded kills...drops with 0,2ish% dropchance....and you call that a reliable source? now i know why the loottables are ****** up. kindergarden math.

hazelhimself wrote:600ish recorded kills...drops with 0,2ish% dropchance....and you call that a reliable source? now i know why the loottables are ****** up. kindergarden math.

So what do you think should be the drop rate of the rapier if it isn't dropped after 600ish kills?

I'm just wondering why you consider http://www.mindkayak.com/bestiary the most reliable source?
I ihave to admit i play since release and i never heard of this site before uthgard. Where are these logs from? And from what time?

The droprates mentioned there seem a bit low to me. Many zones and mobs were itemized when the game was already running. If you got like 300 logs of the time when items weren't in game yet and 300 after they were added you won't get reliable drop chances and resulting in most drop chances way too low.

Just a theory and maybe wrong but doesnt cuuldurach spawn Glimmer Deathwatcher during the raid?
Maybe they have a special loottable etc.

0,2% dropchance for a garbage rapier is just ... not for real! Someone has to find and call the korean guy that found it...

Is the % of loot here on uth the same of that site?
If that's so, okay but i still think the rapier should be in the table because there are many sources that proof its existence. If you have to stimate a % of loot and can't because it's not in that table i suggest to use the same % of other weapons looted from that mob such as staves... It's not even a so great and perfect weapon but it exists and it's been prooved :\

The drop rates for named drops are not just taken over from such a site as that would be wrong. So 0.2% does not really happen on Uth in this way, we use drop pools for named items instead of raw propabilities. Its still an observed value. It means in fact that it required about 600 kills for a certain item to drop.

Will the weapon be added then?