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Praidos
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Postby Praidos » Jul 31, 2009 11:54

Hi all,

I'm having a bit of trouble playing the game. I find it hard to get with the spec that I want and I need some help with it. Also I dont really know how to set up the quickbars in the most efficient way.

let me list my specs as what they are atm and in red what I wanted it to become:

Praidos Level 39
Stealth - 30 + 9 - 37
Slash - 30 + 9 - 0
Thrust - 2 + 4 - 50
Critical Strike - 34 + 1 - 44
Dual Wield - 16 + 4 - 20
Envenom - 22 + 3 - 34

My realm ability's are:
Mastery of Stealth
Vanish
Mastery of Pain III

I do think that I have messed up my character as I want to play as a venomblade. How can I fix this end template a bit to get it to work?
When I reach 40 my plan was to use the respec on slash to set it on thrust.



Another thing I have trouble with is the quickkeybar. How should I set it up? Atm I use it like this: first Hamstring (evade style) then for instance Garrote. So that would be button 3 and after that button 1. This will make Garrote as backup for Hamstring. Is this a good tactic or not?
Bellow is a screenshot of what my screen looks like, pls note the quickbar and how "YOU" should set it up. People probably gonna say its best how the way you like it, but I dont and I changed it a few times.

For instance PA is on 4, its a bit out of reach when I try to attack and walk at the same time.

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I hope some fellow stealthers can help. pls dont come ****** in this thread "infi's are overpowerd" "dont spec poison (because you hate them so much" etc. infiltraters have it hard enough to. It takes a whole lot of patience to pick and kill a target. (at least for me).

Thanks in advance. Greets,

Praidos
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Postby panachier » Jul 31, 2009 12:04

for PA, i used to use it with mouse, that's easier to do when you move to be face on your oponent, but maybe that depend the way of moving that you use...
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Postby hun_cactus » Jul 31, 2009 12:44

Praidos wrote:...


For me:

PA+chain(PA,CD,SC), Dragonfang,Hanstring+chain(leaper,Rib separation)Tranq, Wyverfang, stealth

But i used /qbind 1 10 tilde for stealth ~0 and m mouse to use Backstab II, traq+wyver, and afaik df too (Mx revo ftw :p)
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Postby Praidos » Jul 31, 2009 13:12

Yeah I will probably have to use my mouse more then^^

btw, I'm fairly new to daoc and I don't know all the shortcuts people use

hun_cactus wrote:But i used /qbind 1 10 tilde for stealth ~0 and m mouse to use Backstab II, traq+wyver, and afaik df too (Mx revo ftw :p)


so lot of the shorcuts I dont get. also the /qbind command is new to me.

Has anyone has a idea about the spec? Because I dont think my final spec (in red) isnt really suited for a venomblade.
oh and I didn't use autotrain since I don't know how it works.

Edit: venomblade as in a stealther speced on viper and high poison use
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Postby Satz » Jul 31, 2009 14:29

On all my assassins so far, i used 4 bars...

2nd with RAs and extraskills
3rd with macros and pots

and on the 1st i had stealth as 1, pa/bs 2/3, cd/tc 4/5, and 6-10 positional styles for leech
and then shift+2 and the positionals remained, but the first 5 were full with garotte/ahiles heal, detaunt and afterevadecombo

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Postby Maidrion » Jul 31, 2009 14:32

Satz wrote:On all my assassins so far, i used 4 bars...

2nd with RAs and extraskills
3rd with macros and pots


How exactly do you fill 10 spots with active RAs as an infi/SB?

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Postby nixian » Jul 31, 2009 14:42

he said RAs and extra skills

this could be stuff like dot charges also he never said it was 100% full ;)

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Postby hun_cactus » Jul 31, 2009 15:21

Praidos wrote:...


I placed the steath for the 10th place on the first bar, and used a command /qbind 1 10 then tilde( zero on the keyboard) then i can easily access the stealth when i need. Mouse with programable buttons makes easier your life. (but when i started daoc i used a simple 2 button mouse. In fact i bought this mouse for Word of Warcraft :p (yeah, shame on me))

And delete the last ";" from your signature, then the empty line will gone :p

Edit2:

About the build (heard rumors 9sec fang will come with 1.65, if the community not whine to death (yeah mythic removed the 9sec stun later but like paladin got celerity too and?...) Anyway so lvl 50 build:

Thrust 50
CS 44
steath 36
envenom 36
DW(rest) 14

or

Thrust 50
CS 39
steath 36
envenom 36
DW(rest) 24

or maybe w/o df:

Thrust 36
CS 50
steath 36
envenom 36
DW(rest) 29

You will be rr4L2 when you reach lvl 50, so your envenom and stealth will 36+14 (with items)
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Postby Praidos » Jul 31, 2009 15:52

hun_cactus wrote:I placed the steath for the 10th place on the first bar, and used a command /qbind 1 10 then tilde( zero on the keyboard) then i can easily access the stealth when i need. Mouse with programable buttons makes easier your life. (but when i started daoc i used a simple 2 button mouse. In fact i bought this mouse for Word of Warcraft :p (yeah, shame on me))

I'm terribly sorry but I still don't get how /qbind works, I'm gonna search the forums now and see if I can find some guide/instruction on how to use it. (i will edit if I know or still don't know)
hun_cactus wrote:And delete the last ";" from your signature, then the empty line will gone :p

Yeah I was messing with it at that time^^. thx
hun_cactus wrote:Thrust 50
CS 44
steath 36
envenom 36
DW(rest) 14


Ok I've settled it I'm going for that spec, and all the realm ability points I get are going as of now straight to viper. (good idea?)

Edit: Ok I just checked the ingame instructions....
I know I know, it should be very easy but I just dont get it *smashes head on the table*

"There are no Keys currently set as quickbinds.

Usage:/qbind [[qbar bank#] [qbar slot#] [qbar#(defaults to 1)]
Example: "/qbind 1 2 1" to bind quickbar bank #1 slot #2 in bar #1 to a key.

Use: "/qunbind # # #" to remove a quickbinding."


What I dont get: wat is the bank? is bank for example <1>? and slot the regular numbers? bar are the 3 bars you can choose from right?

i think i get that, but what now?
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Postby hun_cactus » Jul 31, 2009 16:05

Praidos wrote:...


qbind is a slash comand to bind quickbar icons to keyboard buttons like:

chat: /qbind [quickbar] [slot] after you hit [enter] it will say: push the button what you want to bind: e.g. the button what you want to bint to that icon.

Example:

/qbind 1 5
[enter]
q

After this i push the 'q' button i will use the 1st quickbar 5th icon.


Viper well.. Personally i never liked it (when i started it wasn't work here anyway). But it's a very powerful RA, and w/o remedy you will need it in the first times ;)
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Postby kikoo » Jul 31, 2009 16:08

Praidos wrote:I'm terribly sorry but I still don't get how /qbind works, I'm gonna search the forums now and see if I can find some guide/instruction on how to use it. (i will edit if I know or still don't know)


Type:
/qbind Qbar# Slot#
Press enter
Press the key you want to bind to the action.

Example, let's suppose you want to bind the 3rd slot of the 1st quickbar to "P"
/qbind 1 3
Enter
P

That's all.

Edit: arf, beaten by cactus by 3 mn. :P
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Postby Praidos » Jul 31, 2009 16:12

ok thx I just tested it and I get it now^^.

this could be very usefull indeed
ghehe

well If anyone else has any tips please let me know ;)
maybe some tips about drops that could be usefull between
lvl 40-50?

edit: lol but still thx, now I will never forget *shame*
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