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Warriors and autotraining.

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hopscotsch Gryphon Knight Posts: 260 Joined: Apr 12, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by hopscotsch » Jan 15, 2010 03:43 To autotrain a warrior on live you had to autotrain ALL lines. You couldnt level specced in sword and autotrain in hammer up to 48 and then single line respec out of sword and put those points in autotrained hammer (+12 hammer for 77 skill points). You had to train no weapon line in order to get the autotraining. Warriors, by dint of autotraining ALL their weapon specs, get the shaft in the game, because if they want to do anything but sit in Modernagrav from level 1 to 48, any point they put in Sword, Axe or Hammer up to 12 is lost upon respec. Let's say a warrior trains Sword and wants to autotrain Axe and Hammer while he levels up. He puts points in there, all fine and dandy, and gets the messages saying his other weapon skills are automatically given skillups every so often. However, once he reaches level 48 and decides to respec to get to use Axe or Hammer, which he has been 'saving up' for... he will discover that he can't respec Sword down to 1 -- the game automatically allocates a spec level of 12 there, thereby making all his efforts to get those extra points null and void. So if you want to do anything but sit in Modernagrav and be PL'd, you have the choice of speccing in... um, Shield? Thrown? Yeah, that'll make an effective warrior. Meanwhile, on the other side of the fence, an armsman can blithely spec in Crush - by all rights a more than solid specline - while levelling up, and autotrain Slash and Thrust to his heart's content, not losing any of the points he accumulated while levelling up normally. So in effect... Midgard has one 'independent' autotraining class. The Shadowblade. The above is from a forum discussion on vn boards: http://vnboards.ign.com/realm_of_midgar ... 9920586/p1 Another forum thread on the subject: http://daoc.catacombs.com/forum.cfm?Thr ... 7&forum=49 Is it like this for warriors on uthgard too?

Satz Alerion Knight Posts: 1860 Joined: Jun 21, 2005 00:00 Location: Albion	Reply with quote by Satz » Jan 15, 2010 09:40 Yes

Hobbes Myrmidon Posts: 112 Joined: Nov 28, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by Hobbes » Jan 15, 2010 13:38 As far as I remember that wasnt always the situation on uthgard: simple respeccing was possible for getting those 77 extra points. It may feel unfair to some, but consider Midgard/Warrior does not have to extra-train e.g. large weapons. Thus the only output would be 3 extra skill points in parry, since theres nothing more worth of training.

Apoc315 Myrmidon Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 16, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Apoc315 » Jan 15, 2010 17:50 Hmm it doesn't work. A Warrior in my guild was axe and respecced sword at 48, but no points were given by the autotrain. Actually, he has 50, 50 28, instead of 50, 50 31. I so i think that it doesn't work on uth :-\

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jan 15, 2010 18:39 hopscotsch wrote:To autotrain a warrior on live you had to autotrain ALL lines. You couldnt level specced in sword and autotrain in hammer up to 48 and then single line respec out of sword and put those points in autotrained hammer (+12 hammer for 77 skill points). You had to train no weapon line in order to get the autotraining. Is it like this for warriors on uthgard too? yes it is, anyone stating otherwise is wrong I'm afraid

Apoc315 Myrmidon Posts: 154 Joined: Jun 16, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Apoc315 » Jan 19, 2010 18:31 It's like offi, then. To autotrain a Warrior you have to put the points in Throwing Weapons and Shield... You'll need a pow-lvl, or a miracle to do that

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jan 19, 2010 18:38 Apoc315 wrote:It's like offi, then. To autotrain a Warrior you have to put the points in Throwing Weapons and Shield... You'll need a pow-lvl, or a miracle to do that that is not how official servers handle autotrain any more on live you get it for free no matter what you do

Luydor Forum Moderator Posts: 1116 Joined: Nov 22, 2005 01:00	Reply with quote by Luydor » Jan 20, 2010 10:10 Heho, You only get Autotrain here for as Warrior as long as don´t skill in weapons. This system was also implement 4 Years ago. MfG Luydor

Zarkor Unicorn Knight Posts: 3710 Joined: Aug 15, 2006 00:00 Location: Antwerp, Flanders, Belgium	Reply with quote by Zarkor » Jan 20, 2010 10:21 Luydor wrote:Heho, You only get Autotrain here for as Warrior as long as don´t skill in weapons. This system was also implement 4 Years ago. MfG Luydor Uhm I specced hammer and got 2 points in Sword/Axe already (lvl 12 warr).

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jan 20, 2010 10:34 Zarkor wrote: Luydor wrote:Heho, You only get Autotrain here for as Warrior as long as don´t skill in weapons. This system was also implement 4 Years ago. MfG Luydor Uhm I specced hammer and got 2 points in Sword/Axe already (lvl 12 warr). true however you won't get any "free points" out of it

Aiuta Myrmidon Posts: 208 Joined: Apr 06, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Aiuta » Jan 21, 2010 06:16 u can full AT each class... just need 12 single respec stone...u get point on lvl 1-8-12-16-20-24-28-32-36-40-44-48. just make sure before do one of the subscribe level u use a respec into the line/s u whant to AT.

hopscotsch Gryphon Knight Posts: 260 Joined: Apr 12, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by hopscotsch » Jan 21, 2010 06:25 Thats very interresting (Some random unreliable source told me that didnt work on Uthgard.). Have you tried yourself if that works here?

Aiuta Myrmidon Posts: 208 Joined: Apr 06, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Aiuta » Jan 21, 2010 06:59 hopscotsch wrote:Thats very interresting (Some random unreliable source told me that didnt work on Uthgard.). Have you tried yourself if that works here? i have AT one chaar, respec everytime before do the leve... exsemple i was lvl 43.8, i was going to trainer and respec, then do the level 44 and visit trainer again and put the point, then before do level 48, when u are lvl 47.8 go and respec again... if u do that every time before one of the subscribe level u can keep the autotrain. is not easy and is not cheap, but hey u can AT

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Jan 21, 2010 12:02 Aiuta wrote: hopscotsch wrote:Thats very interresting (Some random unreliable source told me that didnt work on Uthgard.). Have you tried yourself if that works here? i have AT one chaar, respec everytime before do the leve... exsemple i was lvl 43.8, i was going to trainer and respec, then do the level 44 and visit trainer again and put the point, then before do level 48, when u are lvl 47.8 go and respec again... if u do that every time before one of the subscribe level u can keep the autotrain. is not easy and is not cheap, but hey u can AT I can confirm this work did something similar to my NS a few of my levels going to 50

Joselyn Warder Posts: 13 Joined: Feb 18, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by Joselyn » Feb 22, 2010 18:58 One of the above posts stated that you could only spec in Shield and Throw weapons. I assume you can spec in Parry as well. At the moment I am all shield and parry with a friend on mine playing a Zerker. So all I have to do is protect them, while they do the damage. Jos.