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SuperMan88
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Postby SuperMan88 » Mar 12, 2010 11:47

Hi All,
I want to make a good shadowblade for fast kill mages and other stealthers in BG/RvR.
I preferer norseman as race, but I dunno how to put initial stats and Spec for exping, and final Spec at lvl 50. I know that is better autotrain silence until 48.
Can u help me please??!
Thanks a lot, see ya in game! BB

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Postby Satz » Mar 12, 2010 12:24

There are many specs... depending on your rr you should, at first go 39 LA, 34 CS, 36 Sword/Axe, 35 Stealth 35 Envenom...
With higher RR you should aim for higher LA and higher CS while lowering the other 3.

Quite good rr10 spec would be 50 LA, 35 CS, 31 Sword/Axe, 30 Stealth, Envenom.

But you could also decrease CS to 21 and go for higher sword/axe for more ws if you really wanted to...

Several SBs prefere to go higher CS for more PA-damage, but this is kinda useless, in my opinion, since you deal much more devastating dmg with debuffs already than you do with PA.

And well, while xping, do whatever you want, keep your envenom at your level, use 2h sword/axe over first several levels, then, at lvl 20 respec to LA, weapon and some envenom and keep xping to lvl 50.

When you get lvl 50, join the stealthzerg, since as a starting sb without remedy, viper3, purge3 and mos3, you will just simply be easy fodder for any opponent you meet.

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Postby SuperMan88 » Mar 15, 2010 11:55

at BG Braemar I will do 34 LA 32 Sword rest in Evenom.
Is it good? Thx

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Postby Apoc315 » Mar 15, 2010 12:08

Leave the SB... :)

In RvR/Emain you won't play because like 6-7 infis and scouts will pop up to kill you.

:lol: Roll a group-char. Maybe you'll find a better fun! :grin:

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Postby vangonaj » Mar 15, 2010 13:35

SuperMan88 wrote:at BG Braemar I will do 34 LA 32 Sword rest in Evenom.
Is it good? Thx


Yes it good if you have cap sc. If you are doing autotrain in stealth, with 6 in stealth train cs is waste of points.

Satz wrote:When you get lvl 50, join the stealthzerg, since as a starting sb without remedy, viper3, purge3 and mos3, you will just simply be easy fodder for any opponent you meet.


He only will have problems without remedi. If he start with purge 2 mos2 mop3 and aug st1 and with good spec, he will not have problems. Not need viper for win.

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Postby Lev » Mar 19, 2010 10:42

some specs to consider until RR5:
the type of the weapon (axe/sword) doesn't matter, as you don't use style from these lines. axe is slower though.
with autotrain, some specs look better. i wouldn't autotrain further than lvl40 though as wilton and thidranki are great fun and 4L2 is mandatory to enter emain. :P

5spec
34 weapon
39 LA
34 CS
35 stealth
35 poison

the most common spec as you can do everything with it. evade stun (2nd style from LA), PA+CD, 50 poison and stealth at RR5.

zerker
35 weapon
50 LA
13 CS
35 stealth
35 poison

maximum melee damage and still 50 poison and stealth at RR5, but no PA/CD. this is the spec to fight other stealths and it's common also.

soulblade
35 weapon
50 LA
34 CS
35 stealth
15 poison

or
35 weapon
44 LA
44 CS
35 stealth
5 poison

rare spec without poison with high melee damage and PA/CD, but low poison damage. i don't know if there even one soulblade on uthgard.

wyrd
35 weapon
27 LA
44 CS
35 stealth
35 poison

also a rare spec. :o
it's good to fight any visibles as it has high dps if you can land cs styles combined with high poison damage and i know there's at least one sb specced like this. :wink:

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Postby arnius » Mar 19, 2010 15:27

Can't you skip weapon ?? and go:
44 LA
44 CS
35 poison
35 stealth
13 weapon
4 rest points
(AT till 48 )

44 LA
44 CS
35 poison
35 stealth
12 weapon
5 rest points
(AT till 40)
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Postby vangonaj » Mar 20, 2010 03:06

Low weapon = bad base damage.

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Postby Zaedrous » Mar 20, 2010 15:48

^^ Not neccessarily true, I've tested it on SBs while leveling say if you spec sword/cs. Put an axe in your mainhand swing a garrote and it will do the same dmg if not higher on an equal quality and eqaul spd. However once you get like 48+ and rr5 it will start to show a slight difference. The way I understand it the CS line acts as your weapon skills and base dmg (not tested this part)

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Postby Razzer » Mar 20, 2010 16:41

Zaedrous wrote:^^ Not neccessarily true, I've tested it on SBs while leveling say if you spec sword/cs. Put an axe in your mainhand swing a garrote and it will do the same dmg if not higher on an equal quality and eqaul spd. However once you get like 48+ and rr5 it will start to show a slight difference. The way I understand it the CS line acts as your weapon skills and base dmg (not tested this part)


CS only gives you styles - you need to train a weapon to get a good and constant damage output. The variance with low weapon is very high. So you might have a good hit with no-trained weapon with cs styles but if you will do 100 hits you will see that high weapon spec will far outdamage the no-specced weapon.
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Postby vangonaj » Mar 21, 2010 14:10

Razzer wrote:
Zaedrous wrote:^^ Not neccessarily true, I've tested it on SBs while leveling say if you spec sword/cs. Put an axe in your mainhand swing a garrote and it will do the same dmg if not higher on an equal quality and eqaul spd. However once you get like 48+ and rr5 it will start to show a slight difference. The way I understand it the CS line acts as your weapon skills and base dmg (not tested this part)


CS only gives you styles - you need to train a weapon to get a good and constant damage output. The variance with low weapon is very high. So you might have a good hit with no-trained weapon with cs styles but if you will do 100 hits you will see that high weapon spec will far outdamage the no-specced weapon.


Exactly if you want spec high cs you need high weapon. On live server much players start with 44cs 44 weapon 35 stealth 35 poisons, and use 2hand weapon.

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Postby Lev » Mar 24, 2010 11:35

vangonaj wrote:Exactly if you want spec high cs you need high weapon. On live server much players start with 44cs 44 weapon 35 stealth 35 poisons, and use 2hand weapon.

the critblade spec
i didn't even bother to post it. on uthgard i never saw a 2hand critblade outside of braemar (with the exception of a staffblade in thid :) ).

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Postby vangonaj » Mar 24, 2010 12:26

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Postby Methusalem » Mar 24, 2010 15:25

what about this : 50 la, 35 env, 35 st, 21cs rest weap
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Postby vangonaj » Mar 24, 2010 15:47

For rr 5 better change 35 poisons to 33 and spec 35 in weapon. Will be shadowzwerker spec. But your spec will bad in rr4. You will not have caped base damage, your pa will do very crap damage.

In my opinion for start in rr 4. !0 cs only for backstrab2.

50 LA
10 cs
36 stealth
36 weapon
36 poisons

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