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Kaltess
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by Kaltess » Apr 16, 2010 09:24
- Twohand damage too low - Bolt damage too low
I think this should be a priority,because Albion's 2 main dps (wizard/armsman) are penalized with those bugs,and so,the whole realm is penalized.
Old RA MUST be implemented! new RA are totaly uncompatible with this server and kill most of classes.No artefact or ML (Bodygard/graple/zephyr)to counter Ra like charge/sos/purge...
Remove buff pot!It's a BB like.If you ban the BB ,ban the pots.Visibles classes play without buff mostly,so why stealthers should keep it?Plz don't talk about solo when stealthers play fg stick at AMG...Anyway,if everybody is unbuffed,the game is balanced.Some classes have abilities of selfbulfs(friar for example).If others classes got buffs too,they lose the advantage of their classes and became useless.
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Tinnete
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by Tinnete » Apr 16, 2010 10:12
I'm really not in a hurry to see more Necromancers, Bonedancers, Animists in Uthgard...
I think success of uthgard is partially thanks to those nerfed class.
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Dragoonn
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by Dragoonn » Apr 16, 2010 10:24
Kaltess wrote: - Twohand damage too low - Bolt damage too low
I think this should be a priority,because Albion's 2 main dps (wizard/armsman) are penalized with those bugs,and so,the whole realm is penalized. Old RA MUST be implemented! new RA are totaly uncompatible with this server and kill most of classes.No artefact or ML (Bodygard/graple/zephyr)to counter Ra like charge/sos/purge... Remove buff pot!It's a BB like.If you ban the BB ,ban the pots.Visibles classes play without buff mostly,so why stealthers should keep it?Plz don't talk about solo when stealthers play fg stick at AMG...Anyway,if everybody is unbuffed,the game is balanced.Some classes have abilities of selfbulfs(friar for example).If others classes got buffs too,they lose the advantage of their classes and became useless.
True! i think that remove ALL kind of buff charges or potions is oK!
but pls dont change the timer -.- no sense!
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zaszeadora
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by zaszeadora » Apr 16, 2010 10:34
Tinnete wrote:I'm really not in a hurry to see more Necromancers, Bonedancers, Animists in Uthgard...
I think success of uthgard is partially thanks to those nerfed class.
Well necro nerver was a dangerous ( all but that ^^) rvr class, but bone and unnerfed animist, umbalanced live servers by months, none remember siege keeps with zillions of mushrooms?.
And some bone able to kill a grp of 2-3 ppl with heal pets and instant 1500 range lifedrain?
This could be a nightmare on uthgard rvr since we have no Bufbots after all and no tank could kill them ^^
PD: just remeber a topic on vnboard about an afk bone that could kill 3 assasins while he was on bio, not at same time, but 3 tried to kill him and none could, then mythic nerfed them, fun times hehe
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namine
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by namine » Apr 16, 2010 12:10
Frist Thanks Staff for this great Priority List:)
Now sth about charges :
Hm but what is with those people that farmed much Weeks to get sth like a Akars Barrier(s/c charge) and now all want that all charges/pots sould be removed?? than the rr 10+ people get a rollback too?? i farmed weeks for it other people done good rvr in those Weeks to get a better chance in rvr ?? that isnt really fair that we spend much Weeks for nothing in the Time other done rr5-7?
If you want to delet those charges first think about those people ... i got a Akars Barrier and yes they are OP but no one said that you(all that want to remove charges/pots) cant go and farm charge items  ?
If you want to delet those items a fair trade would be nice like money/reskins/free lvl or Rvr ups depends on how much the item is worth ^^
Hope my english was good enaugh that everybody know what i mean^^ sorry if not;/
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nixian
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by nixian » Apr 16, 2010 12:23
Dragoonn wrote:thats sounds very booring sincerly! i think is really better dont change the charges and pots! or if u dont like it so, then remove it ALL! but timer every 5 mins is really ugly 
however doing so would ensure that people who have spend months farming a specific charge would still not loose it.. seriously people who farmed for months for a 30-50p item to see it removed in a flash would cry.. I know I would..
changing the timers would make them powerful and situational instead of having full buffed characters running around..
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vangonaj
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by vangonaj » Apr 16, 2010 12:28
Kaltess wrote: - Twohand damage too low - Bolt damage too low
I think this should be a priority,because Albion's 2 main dps (wizard/armsman) are penalized with those bugs,and so,the whole realm is penalized. Old RA MUST be implemented! new RA are totaly uncompatible with this server and kill most of classes.No artefact or ML (Bodygard/graple/zephyr)to counter Ra like charge/sos/purge... Remove buff pot!It's a BB like.If you ban the BB ,ban the pots.Visibles classes play without buff mostly,so why stealthers should keep it?Plz don't talk about solo when stealthers play fg stick at AMG...Anyway,if everybody is unbuffed,the game is balanced.Some classes have abilities of selfbulfs(friar for example).If others classes got buffs too,they lose the advantage of their classes and became useless.
If everybody is unbufed, the game is balanced. Maybe before you bring your cleric friend? All visible classes who play without pots and charges, play with suporter in duo or trio. Pots and charges give to solos chances vs them. If you dont want spend your time in alchemy craft, its your problem, but isn´t reason for remove them.
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EnsisFerrum
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by EnsisFerrum » Apr 16, 2010 12:28
My opinions on this is. Remove Potions and put Item Charges on a recast timer which is longer than the actual buff by like 1.5.
E.G. Str/Con charge lasting for 10 minutes but on 15 min recast.
I do not want to be forced to run with a Supporter in Duo/Trio. I want to be able to also solo without using those Moneywasting Potions.
Greetings
Ensiferum
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zaszeadora
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by zaszeadora » Apr 16, 2010 12:34
vangonaj wrote:Kaltess wrote: - Twohand damage too low - Bolt damage too low
I think this should be a priority,because Albion's 2 main dps (wizard/armsman) are penalized with those bugs,and so,the whole realm is penalized. Old RA MUST be implemented! new RA are totaly uncompatible with this server and kill most of classes.No artefact or ML (Bodygard/graple/zephyr)to counter Ra like charge/sos/purge... Remove buff pot!It's a BB like.If you ban the BB ,ban the pots.Visibles classes play without buff mostly,so why stealthers should keep it?Plz don't talk about solo when stealthers play fg stick at AMG...Anyway,if everybody is unbuffed,the game is balanced.Some classes have abilities of selfbulfs(friar for example).If others classes got buffs too,they lose the advantage of their classes and became useless.
If everybody is unbufed, the game is balanced. Maybe before you bring your cleric friend? All visible classes who play without pots and charges, play with suporter in duo or trio. Pots and charges give to solos chances vs them. If you dont want spend your time in alchemy craft, its your problem, but isn´t reason for remove them.
Well buffer chars dont get ( but bases) buffs for free, they must spend many points to get them, while assasins can get the buffs and all their spec points at same time(yes clers/sham/druid ) could do that, but then you have an completly useless branch on that classes that was designed for.
Now many assasins (for example) get a charges that make them like buff bot server like, while uthgard have non bot rule.
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Dragoonn
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by Dragoonn » Apr 16, 2010 12:43
nixian wrote:Dragoonn wrote:thats sounds very booring sincerly! i think is really better dont change the charges and pots! or if u dont like it so, then remove it ALL! but timer every 5 mins is really ugly 
however doing so would ensure that people who have spend months farming a specific charge would still not loose it.. seriously people who farmed for months for a 30-50p item to see it removed in a flash would cry.. I know I would.. changing the timers would make them powerful and situational instead of having full buffed characters running around..
true! then dont remove charges and pits buff!
But i only said that a longer recast time would be really booring for solo class (stealther)
u know ^^
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Ronian
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by Ronian » Apr 16, 2010 12:43
EnsisFerrum wrote:My opinions on this is. Remove Potions and put Item Charges on a recast timer which is longer than the actual buff by like 1.5. E.G. Str/Con charge lasting for 10 minutes but on 15 min recast.
I do not want to be forced to run with a Supporter in Duo/Trio. I want to be able to also solo without using those Moneywasting Potions.
Greetings Ensiferum
Actually potions are cheaper than charges
For me every pot can be removed except endu pot^^
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Kaltess
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by Kaltess » Apr 16, 2010 12:43
vangonaj wrote: If everybody is unbufed, the game is balanced. Maybe before you bring your cleric friend? All visible classes who play without pots and charges, play with suporter in duo or trio. Pots and charges give to solos chances vs them. If you dont want spend your time in alchemy craft, its your problem, but isn´t reason for remove them.
MMO are not made for solo.If you want to solo,change game or select your target.If visible classes don't run solo,than don't run solo too.Stop to want "i win vs all".
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vangonaj
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by vangonaj » Apr 16, 2010 12:46
Buffbot isn´t buffpot/charge. If all people who are lazy to craft them and farm them, want see the difference, isn´t reason to remove or nerf them again. Pots and charges were nerfed 2 times yet, is enough. Why all want play custom daoc and not real daoc?
Why not go to first daoc version, when all people used epic armor only? Why not remove all craft?
Tell me the difference between buffbot and duo tank suporter killing solos?
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Ronian
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by Ronian » Apr 16, 2010 12:48
Kaltess wrote:vangonaj wrote: If everybody is unbufed, the game is balanced. Maybe before you bring your cleric friend? All visible classes who play without pots and charges, play with suporter in duo or trio. Pots and charges give to solos chances vs them. If you dont want spend your time in alchemy craft, its your problem, but isn´t reason for remove them.
MMO are not made for solo.If you want to solo,change game or select your target.If visible classes don't run solo,than don't run solo too.Stop to want "i win vs all".
Wrong. DAOC is realm vs realm and that also includes 1 vs x.
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zaszeadora
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by zaszeadora » Apr 16, 2010 12:55
vangonaj wrote:Buffbot isn´t buffpot/charge. If all people who are lazy to craft them and farm them, want see the difference, isn´t reason to remove or nerf them again. Pots and charges were nerfed 2 times yet, is enough. Why all want play custom daoc and not real daoc?
Why not go to first daoc version, when all people used epic armor only? Why not remove all craft?
Tell me the difference between buffbot and duo tank suporter killing solos?
On Live daoc ppl can use buffbots and patches are done thinking about that, here you can see assasins killing friars easily and on OLD daoc friars was feared by assasins cause they was THE rogue killer.
Later all ppl began using Buffbots and the patch circle changed, wardes got celerity and spec heald, shield, friars got rej styles and more specpoints to compensate
On utghard assasins get the buff bot buffs( str/cons charge and dex quic one) but we dont compensate this unbalance.
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