Trispec theurg - why nobody plays this great spec?

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Postby Wiffy » Apr 26, 2010 14:17

My Theurg is going to be Trispec 35 Earth 32 Wind 25 Ice. I talked with some Players about this Spec. Most of all said this is a crappy Spec, but nobody got the right arguments against it in my opinion. So plz tell me whats so bad about it.

For Grp only play i would prefer 40 Earth rest ice or 45 Earth rest ice
For Solo only i would prefer 45 Wind rest earth
But for an Allrounder Trispec is still my favorite

My personal Pros:

- all 3 pet typed blue at lvl 50, best ice, best wind and good earth pets
- Nuke dmg is ok with 25 Ice + 11 + realm rank
- Ae root good enough to root supps while kiting
- yellow autobubble

My personal cons:

- Earth pets are not as fast as higher ones (maybe the most important argument against this spec)
- no red bubble (who cares? ^^)
- no spec nuke (theurg is ruppter who cares? ^^)

Plz tell me why this spec is crap, plz good arguments no flames. Thank you very much :)
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Postby Neju » Apr 26, 2010 14:29

because ice pets are bugged to hell :grin:
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Postby Force » Apr 26, 2010 14:39

I think its a workable spec, honestly, it isn't the spec that makes a thuerg, if you play it well that's all that matters.

a mixture of all 3 pets is great, and the air pets can normally survive an AE nuke, making a QC clear very difficult.

I don't think you will be doing any damage with your nuke though, but really you shouldn't need to.

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Postby Toblerone » Apr 26, 2010 14:55

It sucks. My argument ? I have a theurgist.

I lold at nuke dmg is ok. It is if you like nuking for 150 damage. :lol:
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Postby Wiffy » Apr 26, 2010 14:58

Yeah nuke dmg isnt that great but for grp play you need at least blue earth pets for good ruppt and with 45 spec nuke you wont get them...
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Postby Toblerone » Apr 26, 2010 14:59

Pet con doesn't matter. Their speed, hitpoints and damage do. Lvl 32 earth pets are useless, they're too slow and they die too easily.
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Postby Ronian » Apr 26, 2010 15:16

My Theurg has 40 30 20 and it works for me fine :grin:

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Postby Wiffy » Apr 26, 2010 16:04

@Ronian: Your lower Wind Pets still can get a single Target in Perma Stun? Then this spec sounds real nice too!
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Postby Ronian » Apr 26, 2010 16:09

Wiffy wrote:@Ronian: Your lower Wind Pets still can get a single Target in Perma Stun? Then this spec sounds real nice too!


Dont know. Still some items for sc missing only play him once in a while but when a really high rr runemaster was raiding a tower we faced him with a group of 4 too (it was in nf) and my stunpets stunned him fine and he couldnt run away.

I have to test these days. Last times in emain I sticked to earth and ice ^^

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Postby Iceer » May 03, 2010 23:26

What about 32 Earth, 25 Ice, 35 Wind?

163er spec DD, 23 sec ae mezz, all three pets at a valuable level.


i personally dislike earth because of no special abilities (besides speed).

What you think?

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Postby Ronian » May 04, 2010 03:23

Iceer wrote:What about 32 Earth, 25 Ice, 35 Wind?

163er spec DD, 23 sec ae mezz, all three pets at a valuable level.


i personally dislike earth because of no special abilities (besides speed).

What you think?


Special abilities? They are fast, they live 60 seconds instead of 30 and they hit hard...

You should go for 40 earth trust me :)

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Postby Iceer » May 04, 2010 14:03

Meant the line, not the pets!

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Postby Ronian » May 04, 2010 14:16

Iceer wrote:Meant the line, not the pets!


Yep of course but 9 seconds longer duration of the mezz is nice, but I think the speed of the lvl40 pets is superior to the lvl32 ones.

And I have to say that with 30+11+decent realmrank the baseline nuke will be ok for nuking.

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Postby Hedra » May 04, 2010 14:24

Level 32 earth pets really suck. You outrun them with sprint, so they barely hit anyone.
I am assuming direct control.

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Postby Wiffy » May 10, 2010 02:10

What about the difference in Hitpoints and Dmg output between lv 32 and 40 pets? Are there great differences or is it just the speed of the pets?
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