ForumIs 2h weapon dmg bugged?
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You can't compare to klair if you wanna compare damage. He uses a fast polearm for who knows what reason.
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This spear is 4.5 according to the internet. Dont know if it is the same for the Uthgard drop. |
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Yes, that's a fantastic damage comparison Ronian. Let's add up the totals, shall we? By the way, Bambz is a full melee spec Hunter. 50 Spear, 40 BC, PD 3(4?). Your total damage with your hybrid spec (not counting damage add, critical hits, and bleeds!): 775 Bambz total damage (remember, full melee spec Hunter with PD 3): 594 When you include the damage add and the bleed, you did 922 damage. I don't include criticals because you probably have more MoP than she does. Yep, there's no problem with 2hand damage on Uthgard.  Last edited by Seyha on Apr 26, 2010 15:49, edited 1 time in total.
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I did use high growthrate styles (icestorm, tempest and follow up of hurricane) and he did not use any backstyle with should hurt more. Additionally he is only rr4, that means he doesnt have the rr5 DPS bonus. On the other hand I have 44+20 CD and a s/c charge...
I know that I outdamaged him but compared to my explanation above, it was good damage anyway. Only with frontstyle you cant win vs a Ranger. Thats why I really liked the play of Exaria. She knew how to strafe the backstun right^^ Last edited by Ronian on Apr 26, 2010 15:50, edited 1 time in total.
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Engage + Wounding Thrust is fairly high growth, which is what she was hitting you with. Yes, please try to rationalize doing almost x2 more damage than a full melee spec Hunter with PD before adding criticals. Go on. Do it. Then ask me again about nerfing your Ranger.
Actually Bambz is really good at the back-stun. I have seen her pull it off in melee several times. The fact of the matter is that a back-stun is really easy to avoid if you aren't a complete /stick noob.
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For me 170 damage (ok it was the highest hit but hum) is really good damage with a 4.5 weapon. Cant find that fast polearms at motogs maybe Toblerone can tell me which fast weapon Klair has equipped. Anyway Klair makes fullbuffed little bit more damage than this hunter. I didnt stick vs exeria but she managed often to stun me. So Ranger with higher rr and almost melee spec (add base str and s/c charge too) makes more damage vs a low rr hunter and now hunter is gimp ? By the way I lost this fight because I was at 30% life and she has ip2 too. On the other hand the outcome would be more clear if i didnt manage to stun with my opening. |
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5.1 or something. Anyway you can't compare klair to anyone if you wanna compare damage. Even though 2h damage is low, klair hits like a breeze. He can't even break 300 damage on a pd0 caster which is a clear indicator he did something terribly wrong with his char and isn't worthy of comparison.
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You can't compare damage like that and say it's 'ok'. Maybe Klair hit you at the bottom of her damage variance? When I was 39 spear spec I would hit PD 4 Rangers for 185 with a 5.5 speed. Wow, BIG damage right? Except it's not, because your swing speed is over 3 seconds compared to a CD Ranger swinging at cap. Which is higher damage? 185 every 3 seconds? Or 110 and 40 every 1.5 seconds?
Would you please stop treating the back-stun as if it were an i-win button for Hunters? If you don't want to get back-stunned, then just walk backwards and turn. It's simple and easy.
Hey, I completely agree with you! A class with self-buffs, damage add, dual wield, stealth+camouflage, speed shout, and highest bow damage on the server is imba. I totally 100% agree.
Yes and how hard is it to land a side-stun? Hint: it's much easier than landing a back-stun. Last edited by Seyha on Apr 26, 2010 16:55, edited 3 times in total.
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4l2 vs rr10  I two-shot Zerkers
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So what? I only counted base damage (to include style bonus). I specifically left out criticals because of MoP. I guarantee you Bambz has a higher composite weapon spec than Ronia, which should benefit her even more because she is 2hand. The difference in damage cap between level 50 and 51 is less than 3%. Last edited by Seyha on Apr 26, 2010 16:51, edited 1 time in total.
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For sure I have lower piercing spec than her but I only use CD styles with diamondback as a exception (stun and medium def bonus ftw).
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What is the growth rate for your CD any-timer?
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0,49 and 0,82.. Ok, my growth rates are little bit lower but I think the backstyles still would hurt more. |
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klair´s pole is 5.2 speed and MP (crafted). |
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Correct. Hunter any-time growth is .58 and .80 for the Engage chain, so the over-all style bonus is higher for the Hunter. Lets recap: Bambz 4L2 full melee-spec Hunter Higher composite weapon spec Higher weapon-skill table Slower weapon 2hand damage bonus Higher over-all style growth PD 3 Ronian 10L7 hybrid-spec Ranger Higher damage stat -10% damage vs. Mid Studded PD 4 How much of a difference is there in damage stat? I think Bambz buffs with str/con pots. Since you're both using dex/str based weapons the difference in damage stat isn't that severe. Remember that Hunters are on a higher WS table than Rangers, so they get more damage per point of str/dex than you do. Yet you still manage to out-damage her by 30% before you even factor in all your cute little Ranger goodies like damage add and that nasty bleed. And you still have enough spec points left over to cap your bow! /ranger rage
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