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Postby Force » May 31, 2010 09:15

wasn't OF baod chanter only?

what the description says, I honestly don't remember.


also, third druid > warden.

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Postby nixian » May 31, 2010 09:48

Force wrote:
also, third druid > warden.


esp with grp purge

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Postby Zarkor » May 31, 2010 14:21

Tirax wrote:
barnett wrote:http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1597069780207751007#


What a crap vid. The best example why OF sucked...
Almost every inc get pwned by Insta mezz lol. The f8 Slambot is also hot.
Better to slam someone 4 times in a row. Also very few Alb 8 mans, only randomzerg because most Albs did rather PvM than RvR at this time.


Oh boy you are so clueless. If you really can't stand Old RAs, just leave. Or keep whining your socks off for that matter lol I don't care. ^^ Besides I'd like to see you do what they did any day. Just gimme a link of your ultra skilled playstyle then roflmao. This just shows how ignorant you are tbh.

Tirax wrote:Jea its nice to have no more fights that last a while, just mezz and bomb to win is totally greate. Because we arent here to have funny fights for all, no we want arpeees and we want them fast and without any effort.


Seems like you are lol, intending to run out only once every 30 min. Hahah, just beautiful.

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Postby Nymeros » May 31, 2010 15:06

Deleted flam, Artefact

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Postby Artefact » May 31, 2010 17:10

Go back on topic pls.
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Postby koruun » May 31, 2010 18:15

Screw caster setups. I'd go for a melee 3-2-3:

Bard - sweeper
Druid - full back
Druid - semi full back
Eld (red NS, blue disease) - high paced winger
Hero (50 Shield 50 spear, being lurikeen much approved) - holding midfielder
BM - striker
BM - striker
VW (for stuns in melee-train and insta-snare) - striker

That setup would stand or fall with the amount of skill of the groups bard, eld, hero and assistleader of course.
Why ToA-RAs advance high RR groups more than old RAs do:
http://www.abload.de/img/whyoldrasaremorefairjozk.png

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Postby Zarkor » May 31, 2010 18:41

koruun wrote:Screw caster setups. I'd go for a melee 3-2-3:

Bard - sweeper
Druid - full back
Druid - semi full back
Eld (red NS, blue disease) - high paced winger
Hero (50 Shield 50 spear, being lurikeen much approved) - holding midfielder
BM - striker
BM - striker
VW (for stuns in melee-train and insta-snare) - striker

That setup would stand or fall with the amount of skill of the groups bard, eld, hero and assistleader of course.


Why would u want a VW (without Det in the worst case) that will fall behind on your BMs?

Just spec 36Blades/Pierce 23Shield 50 CD on your BMs and you've got all the stuns u need combined with the BMs damage.

I'd say take another eld or BM for that VW instead.

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Postby Tirax » May 31, 2010 19:01

Zarkor wrote:
Tirax wrote:
barnett wrote:http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1597069780207751007#


What a crap vid. The best example why OF sucked...
Almost every inc get pwned by Insta mezz lol. The f8 Slambot is also hot.
Better to slam someone 4 times in a row. Also very few Alb 8 mans, only randomzerg because most Albs did rather PvM than RvR at this time.


Oh boy you are so clueless. If you really can't stand Old RAs, just leave. Or keep whining your socks off for that matter lol I don't care. ^^ Besides I'd like to see you do what they did any day. Just gimme a link of your ultra skilled playstyle then roflmao. This just shows how ignorant you are tbh.

Tirax wrote:Jea its nice to have no more fights that last a while, just mezz and bomb to win is totally greate. Because we arent here to have funny fights for all, no we want arpeees and we want them fast and without any effort.


Seems like you are lol, intending to run out only once every 30 min. Hahah, just beautiful.


If you are unable to see the joke in my similar albthread, i cant help you.
But you are one of this glorius foromrambos who brought us the OF crap.
Thx for that and thx for killing this server.

Beside you i can remember OF times and there were such albgroups running every 30 minutes and dumped RAs like hell.
But from where should you know that? You never played OF.

Force wrote:wasn't OF baod chanter only?

what the description says, I honestly don't remember.

also, third druid > warden.



I know you dont remember, because no one does who pushed "yes we can" button. Baod was a group-Buff. And no 3. druid is not > warden for obious reasons. Resists, Bt, TWF (the radius was invisible).

Some people mentioned that Baod was changed to a selfbuff for enchanters any time, i would like to see the patchnotes for that. Because this never happened.

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Postby koruun » May 31, 2010 19:32

Zarkor wrote:
koruun wrote:Screw caster setups. I'd go for a melee 3-2-3:

Bard - sweeper
Druid - full back
Druid - semi full back
Eld (red NS, blue disease) - high paced winger
Hero (50 Shield 50 spear, being lurikeen much approved) - holding midfielder
BM - striker
BM - striker
VW (for stuns in melee-train and insta-snare) - striker

That setup would stand or fall with the amount of skill of the groups bard, eld, hero and assistleader of course.


Why would u want a VW (without Det in the worst case) that will fall behind on your BMs?

Just spec 36Blades/Pierce 23Shield 50 CD on your BMs and you've got all the stuns u need combined with the BMs damage.

I'd say take another eld or BM for that VW instead.


Tbh I'm with you on this point because I forgot the fact that 2-handed weapons on Uth are inferior to 2-handed weps on Mythic servers, so a 3rd BM with little shield spec may be better here.
On Mythic/GOA servers I'd prefer the VW for the fact that he has excellent growth rates and stuns, also a snare which can be a great help to chase a good kiter, while being almost root immune (he will just nuke while rooted) so his only real weakness would be being mezzed, which can be compensated by demezzes.
Why ToA-RAs advance high RR groups more than old RAs do:
http://www.abload.de/img/whyoldrasaremorefairjozk.png

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Postby Ronian » May 31, 2010 20:07

Bard
Druid
Druid
Ench
Eld
Vw
Hero
BM/Ment

Agree to Koruun but VW is good because he makes cold/heat damage and albs usually dont run these resists in group and you still make damage vs BOF with the styleprocs. On the other hand ench can debuff for you.

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Postby Artefact » May 31, 2010 20:31

Hum, I heard there were no more Conflagration ( 50 scythe style with heat proc ) on the version we're heading so ...
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Postby Finalement » May 31, 2010 20:48

Artefact wrote:Hum, I heard there were no more Conflagration ( 50 scythe style with heat proc ) on the version we're heading so ...


I guess all Vales will respec to 44 Scythe then. But we have allmighty sidechain!! (189 dmg Blizzard-rape).

So nothing will change at currents Vale-racism...

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Postby Cespx » May 31, 2010 22:35

Finalement wrote:
Artefact wrote:Hum, I heard there were no more Conflagration ( 50 scythe style with heat proc ) on the version we're heading so ...


I guess all Vales will respec to 44 Scythe then. But we have allmighty sidechain!! (189 dmg Blizzard-rape).

So nothing will change at currents Vale-racism...


There will be conflag. Just as the 4th hit in after evade chain- /rofl

And forget VW ppl^^ Even with det5 and 26/26/29 body/matter/energy ressists my VW stays quite long in CC. That's why most VWs play a defensive role. If you plan to play offensive without det. Good luck:D

Better take a full dmg specced BM.

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Postby Rasta » Jun 01, 2010 03:13

you guys really think that 2/3 bm's is the way to go with OF? screw that like imo.

with faster cast speeds and shiz, and cc'able tanks caster debuff trains are going to be pretty rockin on hib imo.

Bard druid druid hero eld ench ment x (depending on the player, realm rank etc and enemies out there :D) maybe a mana eld if high rr, but can be ani/bm/ment etc.

could also run without the ment and run bard druid druid hero bm bm eld ench.

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Postby Cespx » Jun 01, 2010 09:53

Rasta wrote:you guys really think that 2/3 bm's is the way to go with OF? screw that like imo.

with faster cast speeds and shiz, and cc'able tanks caster debuff trains are going to be pretty rockin on hib imo.

Bard druid druid hero eld ench ment x (depending on the player, realm rank etc and enemies out there :D) maybe a mana eld if high rr, but can be ani/bm/ment etc.

could also run without the ment and run bard druid druid hero bm bm eld ench.


I dont^^
But apparently you want to see your BM in grp^^
As i said. Your first setup with hero/bm and any good player as the 8th one.

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