I'm wanting to make a NS for the upcoming patch. I never played a NS with the Old RA system, i'm wondering if they are better with patch 1.69?
Also elf/luri what are the advantages/disadvantages of each race?
Any info on the NS class with the upcoming settings is welcome thank you.

Swuft wrote:I'm wanting to make a NS for the upcoming patch. I never played a NS with the Old RA system, i'm wondering if they are better with patch 1.69?
Also elf/luri what are the advantages/disadvantages of each race?
Any info on the NS class with the upcoming settings is welcome thank you.

NS will be the new fotm stealther class, AP, Viper and WA will own.

Elf got better racial resist and luri got 5 more dex/qui. I take an elf over keen any day.

NS will own, only Nightshades had Remedy in old RA's which makes them lose 10% hp but made them immune to poisons, so once old RAs are out Nightshades will be the king of assassins, also lurikeen has 5% crush dmg thats a pretty good racial resist, and they have the better dex/qui, i'd say luri

Wasn't Remedy the unique NF RA for Nightshades?

In OF they have Viper.

Yeah I was thinking Luri over elf b/c of the small size + crush racial and luri has a bit more dmg/wep speed.

Sahaqiel2009 wrote:NS will own, only Nightshades had Remedy in old RA's which makes them lose 10% hp but made them immune to poisons, so once old RAs are out Nightshades will be the king of assassins, also lurikeen has 5% crush dmg thats a pretty good racial resist, and they have the better dex/qui, i'd say luri

u drunk, first Remedy is a NF RA, wich in the beginning of NF was NS only but got changed later.
95% of the enemies u fighting is slash or thrust so crush resist is useless. The only thing u will fight that has crush are solo warriors, mercs, skalds etc and against em 5% more resist wont help u are dead anyway specially with old RA 100% IP on every soloer.

I say 2-3% less dmg > 5 more in dex/qui
Besides an elf looks better

Jep, Elf is the best nightshade race.

actually NS will be far from best because viper is on 30 min timer and only lasts 30 seconds...

it also costs 14 points, making it a very expensive and potentially useless investment.
it basically means that every 30 mins you will deal double the damage with your dot on a single target.

im probably going to skip it on my ns

terragon wrote:actually NS will be far from best because viper is on 30 min timer and only lasts 30 seconds...

it also costs 14 points, making it a very expensive and potentially useless investment.
it basically means that every 30 mins you will deal double the damage with your dot on a single target.

im probably going to skip it on my ns

Agree, u will get AP2 and WA3 first no need for viper then. Its these 2 RA´s that makes a NS better then the rest imo

does WA 3 change poison damage significantly?

Ive never used it, so not sure if critical damage is much higher than normal.

if a dot crits, it crits on every tick IIRC

Force wrote:if a dot crits, it crits on every tick IIRC

Yea, it does and dont forget if u crit with a debuff it debuffs really hard. With WA 3 or 4 u can just toggle weapons untill u get a crit. Damn i need to xp my new NS some more

Jonah wrote:

Sahaqiel2009 wrote:NS will own, only Nightshades had Remedy in old RA's which makes them lose 10% hp but made them immune to poisons, so once old RAs are out Nightshades will be the king of assassins, also lurikeen has 5% crush dmg thats a pretty good racial resist, and they have the better dex/qui, i'd say luri

u drunk, first Remedy is a NF RA, wich in the beginning of NF was NS only but got changed later.
95% of the enemies u fighting is slash or thrust so crush resist is useless. The only thing u will fight that has crush are solo warriors, mercs, skalds etc and against em 5% more resist wont help u are dead anyway specially with old RA 100% IP on every soloer.

I say 2-3% less dmg > 5 more in dex/qui
Besides an elf looks better

Remedy is not NF, in old RAs inf got 1 melee in stealth and stay stealth, SB got the teleport and perf, and NS got remedy, it wasn't til later they all got all 3

Sahaqiel2009 wrote:

Jonah wrote:

Sahaqiel2009 wrote:NS will own, only Nightshades had Remedy in old RA's which makes them lose 10% hp but made them immune to poisons, so once old RAs are out Nightshades will be the king of assassins, also lurikeen has 5% crush dmg thats a pretty good racial resist, and they have the better dex/qui, i'd say luri

u drunk, first Remedy is a NF RA, wich in the beginning of NF was NS only but got changed later.
95% of the enemies u fighting is slash or thrust so crush resist is useless. The only thing u will fight that has crush are solo warriors, mercs, skalds etc and against em 5% more resist wont help u are dead anyway specially with old RA 100% IP on every soloer.

I say 2-3% less dmg > 5 more in dex/qui
Besides an elf looks better

Remedy is not NF, in old RAs inf got 1 melee in stealth and stay stealth, SB got the teleport and perf, and NS got remedy, it wasn't til later they all got all 3

Give it up now, Remedy is the RR5 free RA granted for assasins, u will just look like a fool claiming something else. In the start it was a NS only RA in NF but the enormous whine led to mythic gave it to all assins and made the 2 unique RA´s sb and infil had a ability granted in the stealth line.

Old RA´s NEVER had any RR5 free RA´s. They had a class specific RA u could buy and for NS that is Viper, for Infil its Vanish and for SB shadowrun.

Jonah wrote:

Sahaqiel2009 wrote:

Jonah wrote:

Sahaqiel2009 wrote:NS will own, only Nightshades had Remedy in old RA's which makes them lose 10% hp but made them immune to poisons, so once old RAs are out Nightshades will be the king of assassins, also lurikeen has 5% crush dmg thats a pretty good racial resist, and they have the better dex/qui, i'd say luri

u drunk, first Remedy is a NF RA, wich in the beginning of NF was NS only but got changed later.
95% of the enemies u fighting is slash or thrust so crush resist is useless. The only thing u will fight that has crush are solo warriors, mercs, skalds etc and against em 5% more resist wont help u are dead anyway specially with old RA 100% IP on every soloer.

I say 2-3% less dmg > 5 more in dex/qui
Besides an elf looks better

Remedy is not NF, in old RAs inf got 1 melee in stealth and stay stealth, SB got the teleport and perf, and NS got remedy, it wasn't til later they all got all 3

Give it up now, Remedy is the RR5 free RA granted for assasins, u will just look like a fool claiming something else. In the start it was a NS only RA in NF but the enormous whine led to mythic gave it to all assins and made the 2 unique RA´s sb and infil had a ability granted in the stealth line.

Old RA´s NEVER had any RR5 free RA´s. They had a class specific RA u could buy and for NS that is Viper, for Infil its Vanish and for SB shadowrun.

dude in old the RR5 for NS was remedy, for shadowblade it was the port and perf, and for infiltrator it was 1 attack and stay stealthed, it wasnt a RR5 for all the assassins back then