[OLD RA] Mastery of the Arts

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Postby Iceer » Jun 04, 2010 13:31

Hi Folks!

I have another question on Old RA's. The Ability Mastery of the Arts gives +% Casting Speed but do not go under 2 seconds of casttime.

Is this a really handy ability as it sounds? With Aug Dex3 and red d/q i got 353 Dex and a really fast cast. Like 2,2 seconds with 3.0 cast (lv 50 supp single snare DD). And it was even around 2,0 with 2.8 spec nuke DD and same dex buffs.

Does anyone have a math for this?

Thanks in advice

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Postby Paxx » Jun 04, 2010 13:51

You dont need Aug Dex for castspeed anymore, youll get like 3 times the amount of casttime for the same amount of points by speccing MoA.

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Postby Iceer » Jun 04, 2010 13:57

Thanks Paxx.

Yea, i 'd train Mastery of the Arts instead of augmented Dexterity. The point is just, how many MoA do i need to reach castcap? It just brings down the castspeed to 2 seconds, dunno if i waste points when i have red d/q anyways.

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Postby Paxx » Jun 04, 2010 14:01


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Postby Iceer » Jun 04, 2010 14:08

Humm, you sure, this calculator works fine?


352 Dexterity and no Mastery of the Arts and 2.8 Spec nuke = 1,4308 seconds!

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Postby Darkmblack » Jun 04, 2010 14:11

Iceer wrote:Humm, you sure, this calculator works fine?


352 Dexterity and no Mastery of the Arts and 2.8 Spec nuke = 1,4308 seconds!


= Instant Mezz Aoe xD

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Postby arnius » Jun 04, 2010 14:13

Paxx wrote:Click me


You sure this is correct? you get easily under 1,5 sec with this calculator with only base dex + sc'd dex.
I bet even a troll bd gets near the 2sec cap with this calc ... /ponder
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Postby Paxx » Jun 04, 2010 14:14

Sure, castspeed cap is 40% of the castspeed value, afaik.

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Postby Jarysa » Jun 04, 2010 14:20

There is no 2 second cap on casts.

Where do you get that bullshit from?

That calc is rather likely to use the same or at least a very similar formula as uthgard.

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Postby arnius » Jun 04, 2010 14:24

Jarysa wrote:There is no 2 second cap on casts.

Where do you get that bullshit from?




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Postby Iceer » Jun 04, 2010 14:24

Jarysa wrote:There is no 2 second cap on casts.

Where do you get that bullshit from?


http://web.archive.org/web/200310012012 ... aster.html

Mastery of the Art Passive N/A 1 3 6 10 14 Augmented Acuity 3

Additional 3% per level casting speed when casting spells. Please note that the minimum allowed spell casting timer is 2 seconds – this ability will not allow you to go below this hard cap.



Jarysa wrote:That calc is rather likely to use the same or at least a very similar formula as uthgard.


I think not

Edit: Johannah was faster :oops:

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Postby Paxx » Jun 04, 2010 14:29

Its simply wrong... hardcap of castspeed is 40% of castspeed value

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Postby arnius » Jun 04, 2010 14:34

Iceer wrote:
Jarysa wrote:That calc is rather likely to use the same or at least a very similar formula as uthgard.


I think not


We won't know Uth GM's won't share there formula's they use, if they did it would prevent this sortha threads of taking place.

Paxx wrote:Its simply wrong... hardcap of castspeed is 40% of castspeed value


Well you sure? Its in the Old RA list, it even says so explicit.

Or could it be that (this might be possible) the cap is 40% if it doesn't go under the 2sec hard cap mentioned in the Herald?

eg.
3sec spell - (3sec * 40%) = 1,8sec > 2,0sec
5sec spell - (3sec * 40%) = 3,0sec
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Postby Iceer » Jun 04, 2010 14:39

Nah, this cant be. I do not have 1,4 second cast right now even with 40% value cap.

I don't know what formula Uthgard uses, but its definately not this calc one :lol:

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Postby Paxx » Jun 04, 2010 14:42

1,4 seconds is a long time btw :P

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