Zongo wrote:You guys seem to be forgetting that infiltrators can get the after-evade-9-sec-stun at 1.69. So purge might not be the worst thing to get.

sorry, they won't get it:
http://www.camelotherald.com/news/news_ ... oryid=1414

stays the same 5sec stun we have now.

Neju wrote:we are going from 1.80 to 1.69 - both include the 1.62 patch

I figured that out, but was thinking that perhaps the nerf got rescinded between 1.69 and 1.80, because Astealoths reports of how well he does with Left Axe is so different from Shadowblades of 2004 who for the most part say they are much weaker than infs or Nightshades after the LA nerf.

Part of that seems RA though. Why do only nightshades get Absorb Pain? What a great ability, on a 15 minute timer no less. Not only do SB or Infs get nothing comparable, but the SB unique seems silly compared to Viper or Vanish.

Of course I have no experience as a stealther, which is why I finally want to play one, and I want to be a SB because I like axes and Norse character graphics. But it seems with the old RA's coming I will be defeated by Nightshades everytime and infs whenever vanish is up. Hard to see how Shadowrun is not a waste of points.

Here's hoping you experts prove me wrong. I don't want to just be a caster hunter but turn my tail and run everytime I detect an enemy stealther.

Shadow run will not be waste of points tnx to Black gimps and Shangri noobs.

But is waste of points.

Those damage adds any good? the Rain of fire ect ect

Wellzy wrote:Those damage adds any good? the Rain of fire ect ect

I'm surprised no one has included this in an RA setup. Nice damage bonus when you need it to help counter Avoid Pain or whatever.

Ok I think I will go SB regardless of balance shifts. Just like the Norse too much!

Can anyone here give me a good leveling spec--doing full autotrain of course so I won't be terribly effective in BGs, like a gimped zerker I guess.

Thanks,

Hally

For xp train LA, weapon and poisons only.

wrong, its 1.69. Dragonfang = 5secs.
It was the point for the staff to set de version, afaik their intention was set server to 1.57 or even less.

Dragonfang nerf in v1.69 was a reason to change this

gatovaca wrote:wrong, its 1.69. Dragonfang = 5secs.
It was the point for the staff to set de version, afaik their intention was set server to 1.57 or even less.

Dragonfang nerf in v1.69 was a reason to change this

That and buffshears I guess.

Hallyjade wrote: Why do only nightshades get Absorb Pain?

Because Nightshades are cursed to start with 40 con, the lowest starting con of any race. AP was granted to them to counterbalance this.

Seyha wrote: I'm surprised no one has included this in an RA setup. Nice damage bonus when you need it to help counter Avoid Pain or whatever.

All of them were too weak to justify the point usage. Absorption can not be countered.

define weak... is it like 4 to 5 extra dmg, like a lvl 5 shaman buffing u with a dmg add? or what

Wellzy wrote:define weak... is it like 4 to 5 extra dmg, like a lvl 5 shaman buffing u with a dmg add? or what

It's 10% damage increase per rank in the RA.

Seyha wrote:

Wellzy wrote:define weak... is it like 4 to 5 extra dmg, like a lvl 5 shaman buffing u with a dmg add? or what

It's 10% damage increase per rank in the RA.

base damage, i guess.

What is the duration of the Rain of "whatever"? 30 secs?

Go test it...oh wait...