ForumEnchanter VS Cabalist VS Spiritmaster
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I was trying out these three classes and just wanted to summarize what I found and ask everyone if they think this is more or less correct?
Any additions? From what I can see, having leveled my toons to 40: Cabalist: PVE died a lot more than others (go figure) in pve relies heavily on kiting mostly killing green/blues RVR even more kiting if matter caba, your role is NS with occasional single target DoT Pets are not as useful, although help rupt Enchanter: PVE don't die as much, but kiting is still there nice selection of different pets (healer and DD are good for groups too) group friendly as a bomb has two damage shields, so can use those instead of pbaoe to save mana, especially if grouped with a mentalist RVR speed stun debuffs if speced mana, only pbaoe, which means have to come close overall, not as useful to a RVR group i think Spiritmaster: PVE barely kites at all pet is mighty enough to take 4-5 oranges/reds two damage shields, altohugh one is only 1 min long no other means of damage though 0 group value (except for rez), expect to solo your pet heals are in the same line as damage shield, so you can easily heal your pet RVR darkness speced, great for solo or group with 2 kinds of mezz and lifetap by far the best in rvr, i would say pet intercepts 50% of melee damage making you hard to kill and stealthers worst nightmare Overall, I would say SM and Caba for grouping in RVR and Ench for grouping in PVE Coincidentally, I just checked July RVR stats and enchanter came up as one of the most successful classes. does anybody have any idea why? |
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Because they can debuff for their own baseline nuke. All hib casters have a base heat nuke which even unspecced will do exceptional damage when hitting something with 0 heat resist.
A mana enchanter is a light mentalists best friend in rvr. |
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Pets of all 3 classes are bugged. But for Cab and SM it is a positive bug, for the ench a highly negative ...
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You're doing it wrong. Alb - Eternitys, Eternityz, Spectres, Prophecy, Phantasm, Swarm
Mid - Spheres, Cicada, Aalea
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Yeah, the lack of the disease pet is a positive thing for sure.  Healowner - Alb/Merlin - The Guardians |
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Disease on the pet is very important ... since the cabba recive a castable single-line and AE desease ... 
And since I played a Caba at live, I'M very sure that my pets on live never were chain-stunning or chain-nuking all 1 second when the target try to raun away ... I also played an enchanter on live and somehow I miss the self buff ability of the tank pet as well as the snare-DD of lvl 32 caster pet ... which currently only try to melee. But hey, with the tons of utility the enchanter gets in his lines, there is no need for a snare-DD nuking pet ... |
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...very wrong, yeah. 1.) You can PvE with Enchanter and Cabalist on orange mobs while you are petpulling ... So ... No kiting at all. 2.) Enchanter is usefull for RvR - but only in Hybrid/Castergrps ... manaspec -> Heatdebuff + Heat-Singlenuke - In some cases: Bomb. aylwynn warden
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very wrong. Got a caba at lvl 43 or so and have soloed all the way by focus pulling. Always been able to take 2-4 blue/yellow/orange mobs at a time with almost no downtime due to the ability to sacrifice pet for mana... Ancilla Domini - Druid - RR8
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All 3 got Utility in RvR-grps.
SM lives longer due to 80% intercept (except he intercepts stun ;P) and lifeleech. Additionally he's got a Mezz. Ench (the most seen class in RvR from these 3 Casters) has debuff for THE nuke on hib ;P Baselinestun and nukepet are high utility too. Cabba has Disease on Body, Nearsight (pwns!) on Matter. A bugged Lifedrain-pet which can cast 10 lifedrains in 2 secs (very usefull) and a Stunpet which can annoy you you too ;P In PvE you failed hard tbh 
SM bombspec can easy lvl (you can take pac-healer with you), imo far better than Petspec due to intercept (pet-spec is nonsense with this petdmg tbh). Ench Mana-spec is awesome in grps and veeeery easy solo (or grped with Menta) due to Focus-shield+Bomb in the same specline (Kite??? You're doing it VERY wrong!). I don't know how to lvl Cabba, but since they have their Pet-to-Mana-cast and Focus-shield it shouldn't be a problem to lvl it without any kiting. I really can't say that your experience is right in any form tbh^^ |
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I have cabby here but hadnt on live but for sure that chain nuking cant be livelike. Some players abuse it with using juggernaut 2-3 |
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Of course it's not livelike but who cares ? Everyone uses bugs that profit them, nothing new.
I am assuming direct control.
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body debuff/lifetap/ns/dex,str,haste debuffs/single disease/aoe disease/root/pet with good rr5/convert pet = high utility heat debuff/nuke/pbaoe/pet that casts 4 seconds with 50% resist chance/stun that lasts 0 seconds on tanks = not high utility
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To sum it up:
Ench best dps with debuff nuking and pbaoe, but he is the worst when it comes to utility. In solo RvR Ench is the worst (behind SM and Cab) but when it comes to group RvR Ench/Cab are better than SM. |
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May I point out that a 49sup/21dark sm is a very nice caster in group RvR however due to this server being a tank server, thus ae mezz meaning everything, rarely taken.
Why is he good? small (pb)ae mezz small lifedrain medium instant ae d/q debuff pet interupt/intercept high pbae dmg demezz high single mezz life transfer high instant ae str/c debuff "The past is what made the present, and is a guide line for the future." "A cynic is someone who knows the price off everything, but from nothing the value." "Memento mori, so you can live"
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in wilton i rooted a saphire pet, and saw it insta lifetap some guy from 1500 range.. !?!!? sm pets seem to block bloody everything .. ench pets seem to love going into melee mode =D
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