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Postby Iceforge » Jul 23, 2010 03:55

I was wondering if skalds can hold their own when soloing at 50? Do you always lose to stealthers? do you ever find mages or tanks that you can sometimes beat?

Also, with old ra's inc. Do you think skalds will be able to solo?

I'd love to know!

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Postby Force » Jul 23, 2010 05:04

I've been playing a friends skald, solo mostly. Its has some RR so I can't tell you what its like at low levels or low RR on uthgard. Though I know on live the skald was a pretty amazing solo class in just about any setting.

On my friend's skald I've noticed that there are not many classes you can't beat if you use the correct tactics, and/or have the right RAs and charges up.

For example, AOG2/3 + 11 DPS DA charge will add 100+ damage to your attacks.

DD, DD, snare, DD, DD mezz, let DD's recharge and speed to come up, sprint by and back style as you DD, DD...keep kiting...etc...

you can get off countless DDs that way, and your snare will come back, which you can use to /face and interrupt if they try to bow you or something. The kiting is just letting your DDs reset, the more time they spend not hitting you and allowing your DDs to reset, the more damage you do. If they can not get you to fight them, and can not disengage from you, you can DD anyone who doesn't cast, to death. Most classes have at least some tools to prevent this, but many players can't figure out how to apply them quickly enough, and you'll be getting off 6-9 DDs before they've close the gap. Then you can SoS.


Block rate/evade rate will make you go nuts at times, and that's why I rely mostly on DDs to do damage. If you land, AOG + DA charges will let you do decent damage though.

You'll want purge1+, sos1+, aog2+, IP2+ imo, which ones you get first is up to you, I'd guess AOG2 for grouping in PvE and then SOS1.

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Postby holsten-knight » Jul 23, 2010 10:26

Skalds will become even stronger solo class with OF RA's.

'cause they can't find grps anymore and have so many free skill points for solo ra's :lol:

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Postby Fluch » Jul 23, 2010 10:56

What would ba better choice for ald RA's? Minstrel or Skald?
I cant decide between both classes.

I want run gouped and solo around 50%/50%.

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Postby Pouli » Jul 23, 2010 10:57

Minstrel with a good pet is a pain.
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Postby Force » Jul 23, 2010 11:34

Fluch wrote:What would ba better choice for ald RA's? Minstrel or Skald?
I cant decide between both classes.

I want run gouped and solo around 50%/50%.



minstrel. SoS > Fury of the Gods, and dodger/mob > moparry.

The skald could run MoB and swap between 1H and 2H, but seems like most don't, and that still wouldn't be as reliable as the minstrel.

also, if you plan on kiting to beat tough classes that you can kite, minstrel will be better with pet and skald losing SoS.

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Postby Fluch » Jul 23, 2010 15:48

But Skald has a snare shout for kiting. Minstrel can only use slash Side Style to snare opponent.

Maybe Skald > Minstrel without pet?

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Postby Pouli » Jul 23, 2010 17:22

Skald with +20% body resist song is nice against minstrel :)
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Postby Force » Jul 24, 2010 03:41

Fluch wrote:But Skald has a snare shout for kiting. Minstrel can only use slash Side Style to snare opponent.

Maybe Skald > Minstrel without pet?



I think 1.69 minstrel without pet is pretty even to skald. With lots of RR in the equation I give the advantage to the minstrel.

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Postby Astealoth » Jul 24, 2010 09:48

to solo well with a skald bring endu pots.

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Postby Iceforge » Jul 24, 2010 18:47

Force wrote:
Fluch wrote:But Skald has a snare shout for kiting. Minstrel can only use slash Side Style to snare opponent.

Maybe Skald > Minstrel without pet?



I think 1.69 minstrel without pet is pretty even to skald. With lots of RR in the equation I give the advantage to the minstrel.


How do you figure? I thought minstrels couldn't hurt you with 1h damage :)

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Postby Razzer » Jul 24, 2010 19:04

Minstrel's insta-DDs are on 15s timer skald's on 20s ;)
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Postby Pouli » Jul 25, 2010 06:50

Razzer wrote:Minstrel's insta-DDs are on 15s timer skald's on 20s ;)

false
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Postby Force » Jul 25, 2010 09:16

Iceforge wrote:
How do you figure? I thought minstrels couldn't hurt you with 1h damage :)



they just match up evenly, but minstrel is gonna have dodger and MoB + SoS in OF so I see the RAs leaning the advantage there.

its probably going to depend on which skald is fighting which minstrel most of all.

and AFAIK, minstrel and skald both have 15s cool down on their DDs.

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Postby Razzer » Jul 25, 2010 10:29

Pouli wrote:
Razzer wrote:Minstrel's insta-DDs are on 15s timer skald's on 20s ;)

false


It was changed in 1.65 before it was 20s.

Decreased the reuse timer on the Warcry and Battle Shout lines to 15 seconds.


I remember having this advantage with my minstrel in OF
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