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Postby pweet » Dec 22, 2010 14:11

Hej, i ve a question regarding leveling an eld. I want to solo at least till lvl 20, should i go void or light for that? And if i go void, do i need focus staffs for that, since i m using baseline nuke and bolt? or do i need focusstaffs for both speccs?
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Postby Disdain » Dec 22, 2010 14:22

You need focus on any mage no matter what spell you use. For leveling solo go light, void is too risky since bolt miss too often.
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Postby Artefact » Dec 23, 2010 01:34

Mana spec is the best solo/grp for leveling, dd snare is a bit lower but thought badass resist rate you'll see my point due to snare.
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Postby Disdain » Dec 23, 2010 01:54

Lower damage + high resist rate = more power usage per mob = you'll spend more time sitting on your ass AND kill slower.
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Postby Artefact » Dec 23, 2010 13:32

just get a pom barrel.

And for Braemar/Wilton you can rape most of class 1v1
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Postby pweet » Dec 23, 2010 14:16

I m light now, thanks for ur input :)

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Postby Fediuld » Dec 23, 2010 14:58

For RvR and PvE too, I would suggest pure void to 50 (Light 20). There is no turn back from the dark side of the force :twisted:

Solo : PvP - Void bolt , Eclipse Bolt, Stun and blast the poor guy to pieces with the Eclipse nuke.
PvE - Void Bolt - Eclipse bolt and just nuke like mad. (don't stun mobs until 40)

Group : PvP - DO NOT BOLT or nuke. Spam Null Tempest (or the best of the Eclipse spec AE you have at your level). Use the GTAE now and then. Debuffs.
PvE - DO NOT BOLT or nuke. Spam Null Tempest (or the best of the Eclipse spec AE you have at your level). Job done.

Also why there is a misconception that Void = Bolts = Solo. Yes they have the most powerful bolt, but the remaining spec like is very useful too. Also, there is less likely to get aggro in xp groups, because the caster doesn't stay in the centre of the battle.
Don't forget aggro lowers by the distance from the mobs, and the Eclipse spec AE spells have the best damage/mana ratio.
Ofc getting a Luri is paramount due to the size.

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Postby MT-Pear » Dec 23, 2010 15:23

i leveled in both, void and light, and light is a way more easier to lvl.

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Postby Disdain » Dec 23, 2010 15:31

Fediuld wrote:For RvR and PvE too, I would suggest pure void to 50 (Light 20). There is no turn back from the dark side of the force :twisted:

Solo : PvP - Void bolt , Eclipse Bolt, Stun and blast the poor guy to pieces with the Eclipse nuke.
PvE - Void Bolt - Eclipse bolt and just nuke like mad. (don't stun mobs until 40)

Group : PvP - DO NOT BOLT or nuke. Spam Null Tempest (or the best of the Eclipse spec AE you have at your level). Use the GTAE now and then. Debuffs.
PvE - DO NOT BOLT or nuke. Spam Null Tempest (or the best of the Eclipse spec AE you have at your level). Job done.

Also why there is a misconception that Void = Bolts = Solo. Yes they have the most powerful bolt, but the remaining spec like is very useful too. Also, there is less likely to get aggro in xp groups, because the caster doesn't stay in the centre of the battle.
Don't forget aggro lowers by the distance from the mobs, and the Eclipse spec AE spells have the best damage/mana ratio.
Ofc getting a Luri is paramount due to the size.


You have to be trolling, no way this post is serious.
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Postby Fediuld » Dec 23, 2010 16:17

Disdain wrote:You have to be trolling, no way this post is serious.


If you believe I troll, could you please write down the reasons of your statement?

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Postby Disdain » Dec 23, 2010 16:50

Well how do I put this nicely, you're pretty much wrong on everything and none of your "advice" is good, actually your suggestions are the worst way to play an eld.


Fediuld wrote:For RvR and PvE too, I would suggest pure void to 50 (Light 20). There is no turn back from the dark side of the force :twisted:

For RvR void is useless, for pve both other specs are better. Both for the same reasons, bolts miss too often and don't deal as much damage as they should, base nuke is bad (not even lvl 50 like all other baseline nukes) and the spec line has no utility. Aoe nukes are bad damage.
You gain absolutely nothing by going 50 void. The last spell you get is at 49 (energy debuff = useless) the one before that is spirit debuff at 48 (even more useless), if for some reason you really want to go void 46 is the highest you should go.


Fediuld wrote:Group : PvP - DO NOT BOLT or nuke. Spam Null Tempest (or the best of the Eclipse spec AE you have at your level). Use the GTAE now and then. Debuffs.
PvE - DO NOT BOLT or nuke. Spam Null Tempest (or the best of the Eclipse spec AE you have at your level). Job done.

Aoe nuke damage is so low the nuke will only serve as a rupting and cc breaking tool. Your group will hate you if you spam aoe nukes. Debuffs are useless since no other mage uses the damage types an eld can debuff besides animist lifedrain/bombers which is moot since nobody plays an animist in rvr anyway due to their class defining spell being bugged (bombers). Also no group will take an eld who's void spec in the first place.
PvE if you want to aoe damage mobs mana spec is a lot better, pbaoe is literally double the void aoe nuke damage and the pbaoe nuke is cast a lot faster (0.5 seconds casting time is a lot in daoc) .

Fediuld wrote:Also why there is a misconception that Void = Bolts = Solo. Yes they have the most powerful bolt, but the remaining spec like is very useful too. Also, there is less likely to get aggro in xp groups, because the caster doesn't stay in the centre of the battle.

Eldritches have the weakest bolt (lvl 46) while runemaster one is lvl 47 and wizard one is lvl 50. Bolts aren't even a matter for discussion since they're crap on uthgard anyway.

Fediuld wrote:the Eclipse spec AE spells have the best damage/mana ratio.

No they don't, pbaoe nuke is far superior. Lvl 26 pbaoe nuke for example does more damage than lvl 44 aoe nuke, it's cast faster and costs significantly less power. The gap only gets wider the higher level the pbaoe nuke is.

Fediuld wrote:Ofc getting a Luri is paramount due to the size.

It's paramount due to high starting dexterity, the small size is a nice bonus.
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Postby Thalien » Dec 23, 2010 17:50

Mana imo. Like artefact says snare is nice, also you get ae snare dd for masspulls.

Not to mention awesome pbae if you got xp group, what you should try to achieve as an eld anyways :grin:
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Postby Maidrion » Dec 23, 2010 19:39

I also went mana on my eld to xp solely for pbaoe since most xp groups in hib, especially on higher levels, are about bombing. AE casters like light menta or void eld just don't do enough damage. For rvr I would advice Light though :p

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Postby Hedra » Dec 23, 2010 20:35

I was also mana from 1 to 49, then I respecced to light for rvr. But actually the most fun I had was in BGs with mana spec, craft some endupots and nereids and have fun kiting groups endlessly with disease/snare :D Be prepared for some /rude from hib/mids though ^^
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