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Postby Artefact » Jun 21, 2011 00:17

Gregross111 wrote:
Methusalem wrote:plz reroll a ns or infi



if i wanted to be a gimp or a hippy maybe


8O

imo, decent inf > decent sb ^^
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Postby vangonaj » Jun 21, 2011 11:32

Artefact wrote:
Gregross111 wrote:
Methusalem wrote:plz reroll a ns or infi



if i wanted to be a gimp or a hippy maybe


8O

imo, decent inf > decent sb ^^


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@Gregross111

You will need composite 47 in envenom, for last st/con debuff. You must have composite 50 in stealth ever.
My edvice go 50LA and not high cs. Its harder evade asasins than other classes, then cs stiles are not so good vs them.
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Postby Astealoth » Jun 22, 2011 04:13

there are 2 things to remember in SB spec: stealth and venom only need to be composite 50. composite means base skill + suit bonus (max 11) and rr bonus (your rr minus 1).

rr4:
36+11+3 = 50
rr5:
35+11+4 = 50

left axe minimum effective spec is 44. i recommend 50 for damage bonus and 3rd backstyle chain.

CS is rather optional. it's definitely useful, but when you find yourself fighting a lot of archers you'll regret having it. also it reduces the cost of your temp by 10 fold to remove the need to cap CS skill. without this, sb temp goes from most expensive temp possible to pretty cheap.

and finally you'll want to have as much primary weapon skill as you can fit. i wouldn't take less than 35 or so. my rr6 spec is:

50 LA
39 axe
34 stealth
34 venom

i've always enjoyed this spec and it never feel underpowered vs other stealther in 1v1. this is a non-autotrain spec as i designed this char initally to be a keep climb griefer in braemar.

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Postby Bubana » Jun 22, 2011 14:54

if u wanna play a serious SB go for full LA spec till rr5 and then decide: keep the zerkspec or respec to have more CS points reducing axe,envenom and stealth. but keep them 50 composite.

if u wanna play a easier stealther go for an infi, it has more points to spend in spec lines then a SB, but it has a big big problem. it's ALB

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Postby Gagnastiak » Jul 01, 2011 23:05

I am

39 LA
35 Env
35 St
35 Axe
35 CS

I love it, i autotrained to 40, i have composite 50 everything. I use lifebane, i have Perf with Stuning stab, comback and frosty gaze, over 50 compsite Left axe for high damage.

I don't know who was talking about CS styles not being good against other stealthers, but Garrote - Achilles heel makes mincemeat out of Inf's and Sb's. Its a rare day i get killed by assasins from Hib or Alb, regardless of RR. Ahem.... Hish..laugh...


Now, rangers still beat the crap out of me but hey....what can ya do......

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Postby Garad » Jul 01, 2011 23:10

Gagnastiak wrote:
Now, rangers still beat the crap out of me but hey....what can ya do......

Jab


Use buffs and switch dot weapons.
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Postby Cjasca » Jul 08, 2011 19:59

Well whoever says Crit is crap or does no dmg has absolutely NO idea whats going on here :roll:

Lets get it straight : Crit styles do have WAY higher growth rate compared to La styles ( except back chain maybe, but hey : the only way to use it is when ur enemy is either stuned or afk )

As an assasin you want to burst out max damn in minimal time, so : PA + CD + SS + Snowsqaull will be ur way to go on a perfect inc.

As you SHOULD know : Weaponskill is NOT WORKING on Uthgard...tested it myself and its TRUE.

So? WHY you want to specc high weapon? Why you want to specc high LA ( 50 la? I loled ^^ ) these points invested are simply wasted.

Garotte + heel is maybe the best anytime chain in game...why waste it by using crappy Doublefrost?

My specc with rr5 now is :

39 Crit <-- FULL Pa Combo
39 La <-- Stun evade chain
35 Stealth
35 Envenom
31 Weapon <-- only to get dmg variance to a minimum


I repeat : Weaponskill has NO effect on passive defense penetration here ( passive defense = evade,parry,block )
Your dmg penetration just like ur dmg is set up only by your STATS ( STR in your case ) + to hit bonus of your styles, what brings us to : USE high growth rate styles ( CRIT ) GET high STR = BE happy ^^


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Postby Orihiime » Jul 14, 2011 11:59

Crap. at rr4 u should go 10 cs, 50 left axe, 36 stealth axe/sword and 36 envenom. u dont engage often with pa, epecially at low rr u will not engage shield tank without purge3 so u dont need pa. u can engage with backstab and make the chain back LA
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Postby Garad » Jul 14, 2011 12:17

Orihiime wrote:Crap. at rr4 u should go 10 cs, 50 left axe, 36 stealth axe/sword and 36 envenom. u dont engage often with pa, epecially at low rr u will not engage shield tank without purge3 so u dont need pa. u can engage with backstab and make the chain back LA


My Inf is RR4 and has 50 crit strikes. I engage very often with PA. But maybe I do something wrong oO
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Postby Orihiime » Jul 14, 2011 12:41

infi and sb are not the same garad =) u can spec 50 cs without lose dmg or stun and still do fine dmg. split spec at rr4 for sb is really bad
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Postby vangonaj » Jul 14, 2011 13:21

Infiltrator is the easiest stalther for spec if you do autotrain.
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Postby Cjasca » Jul 14, 2011 15:31

50 crit on infi WITHOUT losing stun? Dragonfang ( i guess ur talking about this one ) is impossible to get with 50 crit...unless u dont want to **** up rest of ur skills :wink:
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Postby vangonaj » Jul 14, 2011 16:54

At rr6 infiltrator can go 50 cs 50 thrust 34 stealth and 34 poisons.
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Postby Razzer » Jul 14, 2011 16:57

vangonaj wrote:At rr6 infiltrator can go 50 cs 50 thrust 34 stealth and 34 poisons.


in theory ... you need at least composite 40 DW to have decent swingrate and haste effect.
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Postby vangonaj » Jul 14, 2011 18:18

The question was about have 50 in cs and thrust, not about swing speed XDD. And i answered it.
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