Just wanted some opinions about sorc spec, not sure if i wana go for last mezz and lower nukes because of lower body spec.. or to get the yelow mezz and higher dmg on nukes. What do you think?

not sure how it is here - but I remember on live, yellow mez, harder nukes = love. LIFE TAP, LIFE TAP, MEZ, LT, LT, LT, LT, lol

Hey

best spec for a low ranked sorc that i could get is 47 mind 26body.
Why?

As a sorc you have real power issues so red pom helps a lot and also your clers will love you.
Red aoe sorc mezz (400 are) just ownz.
Yellow aoe root is nothing for det tanks.
With red mezz shield and clers resists you stay in red mezz about 12sec so you can play good even with purge1.

Thats it.


With regards


Finfula

such a scrub finfi! splitspecced all the way >>>>

ZaiQQ wrote:such a scrub finfi! splitspecced all the way >>>>

Stop being an average player ^^

as a general rule. it depends on what you want to do. but if you dont know, go 39 body/37 mind.

SPLIT SPEC
1) split spec (39 body/37 mind) at lower rr. it is the standard sorc spec for a reason. it is most versitile. yellow everything is win.

I would suggest mastery of focus 1 or 2 only if you need mez to land on the first cast. if you double or tripple cast it, dont bother. the statistical return on investment in mof as fewer resists after multiple casts is painfully low.

AS FOR MIND SPECS
in general sorcs dps a little less on uthgard than on live due to power issues and the overall dominance of charge tanks. this favors the mind spec a bit.

2) 47 mind is a horrible spec lol. 1 extra pt on mana regen is not worth giving up ae root for. furthermore, even if it was, why wouldnt you stop at 46 and jsut use the single target regen buff instead of wasting spec points? laziness is the only reason I can come up with. but really, outside of pve use, i could never justify a 47 mind sorc in any book. and this is comming froma player who has played just about every sorc spec immaginable on live (where respecs were cheap and pleantiful thanks to bps flowing like water).
and losing ae root sucks. if you are rootign det tanks, you are probably wasting your time, but on uthgard it at least doesnt give snare immunity. but the point of ae root is to let the det tanks get out of it sooner than the support, so that they overextend and die. ae root clipping support is where the true potential of ae root exists.

3) if you do want to go mind. 44mind/31 body seems to be the standard at higher rr when body spec is sufficent for dmg. this works nicely as you dont give up much other than some delve on d/q debuff and a few seconds on root.

4) if you want to play a det sorc, go 45 or 46 mind. this will lose ae root. and pretty much all dmg, but you get the last self mez reduction buff, which can save you from havign to purge insta mez. this is also handy for logner fights when you get hit with a mid fight mez when puge is down. ichor 2 is nice is you can afford it at higher rrs. ichor 1 for root immunity reset, ichor 2 actually lasts long enough to count as some cc.

AS FOR BODY SPECS
body spec shines for solo and smallman. but can be very powerful in 8v8 if played well. caster dps is underappreciated on uthgard. so if you position well, you can boom things.

5) 47 body/26 mind. to go higher body you lose the blue regen buff which is very nice on uthgard. to go only 45 body is also a waste as all you gain is the useless 25% self mez dampenign buff. with that buff you will still have to purge any mez. so trust me when i say 47 body as a body soec. no more, no less. mof 1 or 2 for raising the level of your dd.

AS FOR MATTER SPECS
6) dont go matter unless you are high rr. like rr9+, and imo i neevr really had fun with matter until rr10 or 11. your cc blows, but a snare nuke is a very strong ability to keep tanks from pushing. my recomendation for uthgard would be a matter over mind spec (40 matter/36 mind). it can be a lot of fun to dd+snare people. you will need mof 2 for sure to reduce nuke resists, and your dps will suck a lot, but this is a purely 8v8 utility spec. id also want ichor 2 for some cc.

TRI SPEC
just dont do it lol. i thought it would be fun for a week. but it was terrible.

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OTHER NOTES FOR CHOOSING A SPEC:
A) DELETED IN EDIT (yet another case where uthgard does not match live)

B) in general there are the following trends:
-the smaller the group (solo or smallman), the more body spec. the more you group (from pugging to towards strict 8v8 only), the more mind spec.
-lower rr, closer to split (with some favoring body spec). higher rr, more specialized (usually towards mind due to composite body spec at high rr). personally id suggest split spec until rr6 or higher unless you play a lot of smallman.

Power Relics increase your cap Damage. Tested and confirmed with Mentalist and Eldritch.

I would recommend you to start with 37mind/39body.
I used this spec quite a long time and in my opinion it's the best way to go, giving the situation that you're new to sorc and lower realm rank. You get a ****** of utility out of it (ae mezz, both ae debuffs, ae root, mezzshield, specnuke - all yellow) while beeing a bit less mana reliant and without loosing any dmg at all.

Why I prefer this over higher mind specs on lower realm ranks?

First you get an yellow ae root out of it. In most cases it's better to use single root anyhow, especially on det tanks, but it's way easier to throw an ae root if you're not yet confident with single rooting them. Furthermore it helps a lot in zerg fights and makes controllling supporters easier while you're a kiting. It's something I miss in some situations nowadays, as I switched to 45mind/29body on rr8 or so.
2nd point would be the mana usage. You cant afford that many mana ra's on lower rr's so a lower mana usage can be pretty helpful. Yellow ae mezz (which also can be spammed to rupt) uses a recognizable amount less mana then the red ae mezz does. You also get the 35body spec nuke which can be used to deal dmg as well if you feel that you cant afford to let your mana drop to fast due to spamming the lifetap. Sure its dmg is a bit lower, but you can still use it kinda often if needed to.
3rd point would be the damage. As Im someone that likes an agressive playstyle on sorc it's better to have no dmg variance at all on your spells. If the situation allows it you should assist / pick a target yourself / secure a kill or as well get and enemy tank to leave his target while nuking them. For all of that it helps having more dmg. Sure your primary job is to control the team but it isnt that rarely that you have to nuke yourself a bit.


If your progress goes on you can think of switching your spec then. As I already said Im using a 45mind/29body spec at the moment. Given the fact that I got +8 body magic out of my rr my dmg variance is nearly no existent. I also got the higher mezzdamp shield and aoe mezz (higher radius, longer duration) out of it, while only losing the ae root and one level on the ae d/q debuff. As Im nearly always single rooting it doesnt matter that much and I feel like this is the way to go for me. But well it drains my mana way faster as well, but with some mana ra's its fine that way.

Xedie wrote:I Given the fact that I got +8 body magic out of my rr my dmg variance is nearly no existent

I respeced my RAs recently but i used to hit for about 400 with lifetap on yellow body debuff with MoM3 and Aug Acu3. So damage aren't really a problem even with 45 mind.


Matter spec is a great piece of fun for soloing but you'll need some RR before, considering the low survivability of visible soloers on uthgard (purge3 and moc3 are a must have here). I used to go for 50 matter (last single dot) and it's played the same way as solo sham: dd snare, dotx2, run... target dead.

Zail wrote:

Xedie wrote:I Given the fact that I got +8 body magic out of my rr my dmg variance is nearly no existent

I respeced my RAs recently but i used to hit for about 400 with lifetap on yellow body debuff with MoM3 and Aug Acu3. So damage aren't really a problem even with 45 mind.
Matter spec is a great piece of fun for soloing but you'll need some RR before, considering the low survivability of visible soloers on uthgard (purge3 and moc3 are a must have here). I used to go for 50 matter (last single dot) and it's played the same way as solo sham: dd snare, dotx2, run... target dead.

Im going the MoC3 lifetap route, survivability is good, all 15 seconds of it or so, then you get the wtf ganked LOL
-Ost

i would totally recommend 44mind, rest body

u definitly need the red aoe mezz against det tanks. ofc it doenst last long, but still longer than this crappy yellow one
about ur nukes: when u lead a grp as main cc (most times u wont carry a minstel with u in grp), u dont have time to nuke anyway in good fights. so dont bother about the variance in ur nukes ... whne u hit rr9, the variance is gone anyway

edit: dont forget, not toa bonuses here ... so get that red ae mezz and giev perfect grpmezz into hib/mid faces :p