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gumby Myrmidon Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 20, 2012 08:33	Reply with quote by gumby » Jun 30, 2012 11:12 http://camelot.allakhazam.com/db/search.html?cmob=3985 I understand that albs have dirk of dangerous tidings, with the proc changed to dex/quick. Out of curiosity why was the dagger (hib) not included as well?

Adianne Gryphon Knight Posts: 307 Joined: Dec 31, 2010 19:58 Location: USA	Reply with quote by Adianne » Jun 30, 2012 14:31 I WANT!! Gumby, lets get this! "Vision is not seeing things as they are, but as they will be"

gumby Myrmidon Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 20, 2012 08:33	Reply with quote by gumby » Jul 01, 2012 09:17 Based on history, this is a custom change, even though Albs have it, and we won't get it. Or a GM will post a ss of it dropping to make me look stupid. : /

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Jul 01, 2012 16:46 A couple things: 1) The loot tables prior to 1.71 were unavailable. This meant we'd either have about 5 items, or we'd have to incorporate the 1.71 items somehow. For this to happen, suitable procs were found to replace the TOA-style procs (endu drain, for example) 2) If you can show that this item should indeed drop for all 3 realms, we'll have it added.

EternitySphere Myrmidon Posts: 134 Joined: Mar 25, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by EternitySphere » Jul 01, 2012 17:41 Abydos wrote:A couple things: 1) The loot tables prior to 1.71 were unavailable. This meant we'd either have about 5 items, or we'd have to incorporate the 1.71 items somehow. For this to happen, suitable procs were found to replace the TOA-style procs (endu drain, for example) 2) If you can show that this item should indeed drop for all 3 realms, we'll have it added. As far as I know and remember, the procs on the weapons from Marf, HoC, Dodens and SH were NOT TOA procs. They were added after SI and well before TOA came about. SI, and more specifically, the epic dungeons, added new procs/reactive procs. The frontier dungeon was a small extension on that in regard to procs. Alb - Eternitys, Eternityz, Spectres, Prophecy, Phantasm, Swarm Mid - Spheres, Cicada, Aalea Eternitys - If were allowing custom changes, why would the staff choose to remove a very very good and highly accepted custom change such as barrels? Then on top of that, use the "it's livelike" excuse as a reason for removing them? If staff are so concerned about livelike and that's the direction the staff wish to go, I'd fully support a 100% livelike server. However if there are custom changes on the server, then using the "livelike" excuse is being nothing more then hypocritical. Staff - Locked!

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Jul 01, 2012 18:45 EternitySphere wrote: Abydos wrote:A couple things: 1) The loot tables prior to 1.71 were unavailable. This meant we'd either have about 5 items, or we'd have to incorporate the 1.71 items somehow. For this to happen, suitable procs were found to replace the TOA-style procs (endu drain, for example) 2) If you can show that this item should indeed drop for all 3 realms, we'll have it added. As far as I know and remember, the procs on the weapons from Marf, HoC, Dodens and SH were NOT TOA procs. They were added after SI and well before TOA came about. SI, and more specifically, the epic dungeons, added new procs/reactive procs. The frontier dungeon was a small extension on that in regard to procs. He's speaking about a Summoners Hall item were revamped after NF. Endurance drain, % insta power heals and other such procs were of the TOA age only. If someone shows me one from SI, I'll gladly change them all out on those items.

Runental Phoenix Knight Posts: 1161 Joined: Aug 21, 2009 00:00 Location: Funkytown	Reply with quote by Runental » Jul 01, 2012 18:55 Well, not an endu leech, but endu heal http://web.archive.org/web/200305201644 ... citem=6107 ONE a Shaman solo Video TWO a Shaman solo Video

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Jul 01, 2012 18:56 Runental wrote:Well, not an endu leech, but endu heal http://web.archive.org/web/200305201644 ... citem=6107 endu heals are common in SI and are planned

gumby Myrmidon Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 20, 2012 08:33	Reply with quote by gumby » Jul 01, 2012 23:56 Abydos wrote:A couple things: 1) The loot tables prior to 1.71 were unavailable. This meant we'd either have about 5 items, or we'd have to incorporate the 1.71 items somehow. For this to happen, suitable procs were found to replace the TOA-style procs (endu drain, for example) 2) If you can show that this item should indeed drop for all 3 realms, we'll have it added. Albs have Dirk with dex/quick debuff http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=19301 The same item for hib is the dagger, yes it has endo drain, but why hasnt this been changed to dex/quick debuff and given to hib? http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=19450

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Jul 02, 2012 00:54 gumby wrote: Abydos wrote:A couple things: 1) The loot tables prior to 1.71 were unavailable. This meant we'd either have about 5 items, or we'd have to incorporate the 1.71 items somehow. For this to happen, suitable procs were found to replace the TOA-style procs (endu drain, for example) 2) If you can show that this item should indeed drop for all 3 realms, we'll have it added. Albs have Dirk with dex/quick debuff http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=19301 The same item for hib is the dagger, yes it has endo drain, but why hasnt this been changed to dex/quick debuff and given to hib? http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=19450 Thanks for the link, I'll get this added up. Didn't realize it was missing (and no its not intentional) Fyi, feel free to submit items to the "You need drops?!..." thread :edit: Drop created and added. Enjoy

gumby Myrmidon Posts: 85 Joined: Jun 20, 2012 08:33	Reply with quote by gumby » Jul 02, 2012 02:31 Abydos wrote: gumby wrote: Abydos wrote:A couple things: 1) The loot tables prior to 1.71 were unavailable. This meant we'd either have about 5 items, or we'd have to incorporate the 1.71 items somehow. For this to happen, suitable procs were found to replace the TOA-style procs (endu drain, for example) 2) If you can show that this item should indeed drop for all 3 realms, we'll have it added. Albs have Dirk with dex/quick debuff http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=19301 The same item for hib is the dagger, yes it has endo drain, but why hasnt this been changed to dex/quick debuff and given to hib? http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=19450 Thanks for the link, I'll get this added up. Didn't realize it was missing (and no its not intentional) Fyi, feel free to submit items to the "You need drops?!..." thread :edit: Drop created and added. Enjoy Thank you, Abydos! You're welcome hibs!

ctaber2011 Warder Posts: 35 Joined: Sep 17, 2012 01:13 Location: United States	Reply with quote by ctaber2011 » Oct 18, 2012 04:22 hib has this