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Postby Seethoven » Jun 12, 2012 23:45

Trishin wrote:
Seethoven wrote:I LITERALLY posted a video of someone using one of these weapons, that they themselves posted. I kind of doubt you'll get banned if something hasn't been done about the guy showing it off.


In 2011. If he is still using such a weapon /callgm.



So, how do you suppose I find that out :P?

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nicejoeA
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Postby nicejoeA » Aug 01, 2012 01:58

Seethoven wrote:These items that are just wrong (thrust scythe, crush spear) should really be removed from the game altogether. Is there really any reason they haven't already been?


If there's any question of an unfair advantage with broken weps, plz refer to this video:

viewtopic.php?f=86&t=23757


i agree with you coz if its coming and coming there will still be someone who will buy bugged items.. thankful that i read this post btw how did you know that RonELuvv spear is a bug?he cant use that spear?
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Postby majky666 » Aug 01, 2012 08:01

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Magicco
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Postby Magicco » Aug 01, 2012 12:22

nicejoeA wrote:btw how did you know that RonELuvv spear is a bug?


its a bug cause there are no crush spears :D

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Gagnastiak
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Postby Gagnastiak » Aug 03, 2012 19:06

Magicco wrote:
nicejoeA wrote:btw how did you know that RonELuvv spear is a bug?


its a bug cause there are no crush spears :D


HMMMMM.....


I'd like to point out there are no such thing as legendary weapons that do crush/slash/thrust damage...can we please get Flump banned?

I know of a couple SB's using Old Dragonmights with Matter Dots, to whom should i submit the ban request?

I don't recall ever seeing a bonedancer with just one pet, can they all be banned as well?

Maybe ill just stop there...Im sure you ca all see where its headed.

Using items that have legitimately dropped should be perfectly legal. At the minimum staff should be willing to replace bugged items with the correct ones. Will a player be banned for buying an item off housing that has a erroneous stat even though said player is unaware?

If this rule is going to be in effect, where items that are dropped at no fault of the player, with bugged stats.....are bannable to use!!!! It seems only fair we not pick and choose what items to apply this to. I always thought that the bloodgorge scythe 1h bug was intentional, just like the Slash damage Tempestuous axes i have.

How is one to know the difference between staffs intentional bugs, and the accidental ones?

I mean is it so different that bugged items (Legendary Ingredients) are sold off of a staff created vendor, than a bugged Scythe that drops off of a staff created mob?

I think we the players, need to come together with the staff and make a list of all the controversial items we may have. Maybe we could include the council, those of similar mind and soul of the regular player, and let them vote on what items we can use.


After all is said and done we can have a event to see who can turn in the most contraband!!!! Maybe we can have a EVENT....like a symbolic BOOK BURNING of items, in the end in which we get Uthalis for helping the server get clean!!! Then we could use those Uthalis to buy functional...purposeful.....slightly less noticeably bugged items.....and in time we can repeat the same event.



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pweet
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Postby pweet » Aug 03, 2012 19:35

Jabber what happened to you to turn you into such a frustrated person in such a short time :oops:

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Gagnastiak
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Postby Gagnastiak » Aug 03, 2012 19:43

That was pure joy and insight, shared with the masses, in an effort of peace!


Woe is me and my misunderstood intentions!


Power to the People!

Jabberjaw

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Rector
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Postby Rector » Aug 03, 2012 19:55

I offer 50P for a 16,5 dps MP crush spear! :grin:

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Magicco
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Postby Magicco » Aug 03, 2012 20:20

Gagnastiak wrote:I'd like to point out there are no such thing as legendary weapons that do crush/slash/thrust damage...can we please get Flump banned?


normally all leg. weapons got their correct damage type, so axe should be slash


I know of a couple SB's using Old Dragonmights with Matter Dots, to whom should i submit the ban request?


you are not very smart, aren't you? dot proc should allways stack with poison no matter what damagetyp... so indeed the new dragonmights are all bugged but i see how dumb people are willing to pay tons of money for a wrong item (only the damagetyp) instead of making a proper bugreport and get all normal items worked... well well...

I don't recall ever seeing a bonedancer with just one pet, can they all be banned as well?

no comment for discuss sth on a proper way

Using items that have legitimately dropped should be perfectly legal. At the minimum staff should be willing to replace bugged items with the correct ones. Will a player be banned for buying an item off housing that has a erroneous stat even though said player is unaware?

If this rule is going to be in effect, where items that are dropped at no fault of the player, with bugged stats.....are bannable to use!!!! It seems only fair we not pick and choose what items to apply this to. I always thought that the bloodgorge scythe 1h bug was intentional, just like the Slash damage Tempestuous axes i have.


an item that should not exist in this way, should be replaced with an item with proper stats.
well if you think than scythes are 1h, and spears a crush, than you can call yourself a noob. cause only a noob would believe it. and because uthgard is soooo full of noobs, no one reported such things :D

and once again: a leg. weapon has normal damage stats


blablabla trashtalk & bs



oh gagna I'm not sure how you can hijack every thread and spread your opinion about the staff&council&players again n again n again?
i warned zacknafein here to buy such an item, cause it may will cause a big decay of money (when its corrected) or maybe with bigger issues (ban). he asked a gm, he told us what the gm said and thats it.

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Postby ZaiQQ » Aug 04, 2012 01:01

Well as always, the guidelines for what a gm says are always different.

Abydos stated regarding +power regen items, that they can be used without punishment, since it's a gm error, and players shouldn't be punished for it. Even knowingly using it with the toa stat wrongly implemented.

Other gm puts a restriction on using a crush spear (don't know what gm told him, but if it would be abydos it would be wierd)

The power reg items by far has a higher impact then using a lousy 4.5 spd crush spear.

Then there's the LW slash spear from hib, or legendary thrust scythe

Not to mention, that there are still operational legendary weapons, missing the proc but still operational, hell, there should even be leggies left with the proc.
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Gagnastiak
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Postby Gagnastiak » Aug 04, 2012 01:13

Magicco wrote:
you are not very smart, aren't you? dot proc should allways stack with poison no matter what damagetyp... so indeed the new dragonmights are all bugged but i see how dumb people are willing to pay tons of money for a wrong item (only the damagetyp) instead of making a proper bugreport and get all normal items worked... well well...




Just as an FYI i can provide screeshots of me and Abydos dueling and testing this very item and the proc. I was told it should not stack.

We also tested dot stacking against my cave shammy. Same result.

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Magicco
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Postby Magicco » Aug 04, 2012 01:20

so your test included what?
live or uthgard?
every dot proc vs poison?
different damage types of dot proc's vs poison?
dragonmight vs poison?
dropped procs vs poison?
crafted procs vs poison?
charges vs poison?

never mind, take ur flamebait and try to bash some more threads

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Gagnastiak
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Postby Gagnastiak » Aug 04, 2012 03:26

Magicco wrote:so your test included what?
live or uthgard?
every dot proc vs poison?
different damage types of dot proc's vs poison?
dragonmight vs poison?
dropped procs vs poison?
crafted procs vs poison?
charges vs poison?

never mind, take ur flamebait and try to bash some more threads



No no please let me answer!


Abydos conclusion that the dots should not stack was made right there on the fly, are you implying that he should have employed greater scientific method?


Frankly Magicco i dont like your accusing tone, Abydos's on the fly method seemed acceptable to me, i felt like he was skilled enough of an GM to forgo the scientific method. I think you should offer more respect Magicco! Pfft... as if I wouldnt do it correctly.....

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Abydos
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Postby Abydos » Aug 04, 2012 19:41

RonELuvv wrote:Well, we can close this thread down and delete it.

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Postby Abydos » Aug 04, 2012 19:47

Willful use of known exploits can and may result in punishment. If you feel you have a bugged item, please /callgm to have it addressed. That being said, you are unlikely to face a ban unless you try to avoid detection, hide, or otherwise try to disobey GM commands when we find you to fix the item.

If you know of items with improper stats in use by anyone (such as +power regen) you can report them and we'll make sure that gets taken care of. This also goes for improper reskins (like epic armors on the wrong class) or weapon types (hammers that look like a sword) or effects (giant 2h effect on small dirk)

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