I logged on my scout for the first time in forever and stuck him inside DF to notice that all my item charges were at 3 mins

Str/con, dex/qui, abs, haste, all my items said 3mins is this normal or a bug and if a bug do i need to exchange the items?

Seems a bit unfair for my already gimp scout to not be able to have these up.

If it's working as intended , I guess it's time to roll a ranger?...

Not a bug, work like it should.

They changed it some months ago.

It depends. If you prove that timer is wrong it gets corrected.

Well since I can't play classic anymore guess i'm re-rolling to a ranger or i'll just quit again like i have in the past , btw it's never been 3mins on live either , cause we always had buff bots...So can we have bots now since your screwing up the server anyways, I mean heck it was live-like to have bots back in 1.69...

this thread is clearly constructive.

Frows wrote:Well since I can't play classic anymore guess i'm re-rolling to a ranger or i'll just quit again like i have in the past , btw it's never been 3mins on live either , cause we always had buff bots...So can we have bots now since your screwing up the server anyways, I mean heck it was live-like to have bots back in 1.69...

I offered you a fix and you don't seem to want one instead I see just QQ, disappointing. Number one would be to look at Allakhazam. There are surely items which are not corrected yet even when GM's already have adjusted a lot.

"Assumption is the mother of all f**k ups"

I did look at Allakhazam before I posted the first time and there is no reuse timer on it...So I stated that I could not go back in time and check 1.69 and I am unable to pay to play games anymore, so I'm saying if I want to stay here and actually have any fun as a sneak I have to roll one that has self buffs or has the use of a buffbot.

You need to not treat people like they are idiots and look and see what you messed up in the first place and will be the ramifications of your actions later on down the road.

Now if you know a way of looking up older items from 1.69 please share the information.

if there's no timer on zam, then it's 3 min, cause that's the default-timer for charges with no specific timer...

and with your attitude "oh qq i can't compete without buffs qq" you may as well leave...no1 will miss a buffbot crybaby...

Wow someone sounds a lil testy , have you played a scout recently or even a solo char? The state of the realm sux cause of all these changes , there's no action just zergs or keeptakes or high rr sneaks killing everyone and mass rangers , yes a very poorly buffed scout will lose 9/10 times to a self buffed op'd ranger throw in a str/con item and a dex pot , you can't win so yes that's what I'm being forced to play, or I can stop playing the game I've loved for over a decade.

i always play unbuffed and 90% solo and being a caster should prove, that i know how solo-unbuffed-play can be...at least you can decide whom to attack, which isn't an option for me...

rangers are op as well as assassins because of RAs being toa-stated...blue already confirmed that viper and pd will be "nerfed" for these classes, so just have a little patience and stop complaining...besides: scouts are not supposed to kill assassins...daoc is stone paper scissors and assassins are clearly made for killing archers or any other ranged class like casters or supporters...ofc with good RAs or high RR it's possible to kill the "counterclass" but usually not...scouts also have a disadvantage vs rangers, cause block is halved by dw, while ranger's evade is fully effective...

it's like me as a caster complaining that i can't kill an assassin after i took a PA...omg op op!

archers were probably made for kiting as well as killing non-shield-spec-visibles...just like hunters and rangers, though rangers have, again, an advantage of shield-tanks due to dw...

hunter too due to pet

Hey Frows,

Scout's got hosed on this since they are the only non self buff archer class on the server. I know, I have talked with Dexx multiple times about this and I understand your frustration. Here are a couple things I want to throw out to you though:

1. Remember this was a server wide change. It hit all 3 realms equally, allthough you are right that self buff classes feel this the least but that is for all realms.

2. Remember that they LOWERED the timers on buff pots to 5 seconds, so where it is harder to run w/ lots of charges it is now easier to run w/ buff pots. It is however kinda a pain in the butt to have to make a bunch of single pots and it does require a decent house to store said pots.

3. Hibernia has had several timers reduced based on reseach on said items and Midgard has as well since these items were proven to have lower re-use timers. Ask around in /broad or with others and you may find that alot of charges you use were allready lowered on a different item in Albion.

4. Alot of people have resorted to using procs instead of charges to get some buffs up. This is especially useful for getting a Albalative up or a AF buff up. Put on a shield w/ these charges as a proc, find a green or gray mob otw to where you are camping, let them hit on you a few times, buff pops, kill mob and head on. I dont prefer this method as rebuff'ing then becomes a serious chore.

Either way, I get why your upset, but just like any other change on this server all we can do is adapt and evolve with the server. Complaining to Blue or the other GM's will not get it changed. Like you said, either learn to deal with what we got or make a toon that this is not quite so effected by this change. Other than those 2 options your only other option is as you stated, quit playing on the server.

Not a single item name mentioned here. can't really help you.

Custom items won't get changed. So forget about Basalt/anarchy/chaos from DF.
Other items you can provide evidence as have others over at the "Bugged items" thread.