Celteen wrote:

Methusalem wrote:in ur dreams.... (remember : midbow = 5.0 !)

you need 1.5 sec rapid fire not 1.7sec.

Hunter is the best bow class for stealth wars

i dont talk about RF, i talk about CS, and that for u need a slowone to deal fine dmg. and it makes ALOT differnece if u do a CS with 5.0 or a 5.8 one!.



and bout rest of ur post, lol, why u dont play a hunter then. heared u prefer playing oped classes .....like hunter

Hey Jez, I will try and help you out as much as I can. I would say for going with FULL sniper spec then what Czzarre said is true. Speed on spear is slow AND against alot of classes it is very hard to get 2 styles off in a row. With shield and one hand you will attack much faster, have a slightly better defense to live through that hopefully little bit of mele, then snare and run. The disadvantage is not having the 2 types of dmg (thrust/keen) that spear offers, but you arent planning on using mele much anyways. Remember that you also will have your RR5 at some point to help you kite away as well and the speed burst is nice at 43 BC. It doesnt sound like much but when you are chasing down a person or running away from them the extra % of speed does matter.

I have no clue why people are telling you RA's, but most are right, dont spend more then into 2 lvl's of LW. It will be more then enough. To get lvl 3 and 4 it will cost you another 16 points. That is MoS5 + 2 extra points. Run with an insta edu pot and a endu regen pot for different situations, and hell if you are willing to spend 16 points on LW 3 or 4 then instead of doing that put 15 points and get 2nd Wind 2 and have an in combat full endu regen bar every 5 minutes. Not that I recommend that, but you see the point i'm tryinig to make. As a sniper, MoS5, Aug dex, LW, and purge are all needed.

thanks a lot ron, that was exactly what i was looking for...shoulda asked you directly from the start

Methusalem wrote:

Celteen wrote:

Methusalem wrote:in ur dreams.... (remember : midbow = 5.0 !)

you need 1.5 sec rapid fire not 1.7sec.

Hunter is the best bow class for stealth wars

i dont talk about RF, i talk about CS, and that for u need a slowone to deal fine dmg. and it makes ALOT differnece if u do a CS with 5.0 or a 5.8 one!.



and bout rest of ur post, lol, why u dont play a hunter then. heared u prefer playing oped classes .....like hunter

hunter MoS5 crit shot opening pet and running away, how u gonna think any scout/ranger/infi/NS gonna win?
there are no hunters out doing it, but in general Hunter is the best class for stealth wars
pretty easy winning with critshot and mos5 as a ranger, but tbh as a hunter it is even easier

Sure, a MoS5 hunter that is well played can do some dmg, but remember, MoS is only going to help that hunter/ranger/scout against assasins or other ranged w/out camo. If another ranger comes across that same hunter and both have camo then that hunter will more then likely be screwed. So no matter what you spec and how u play there is a weakness, but overall I agree with pweet. I think hunter is better then ranger against most classes and would even say hunter is maybe a bit more powerful than ranger straight up in a fight.

pweet wrote:hunter MoS5 crit shot opening, pet and running away, how u gonna think any scout/ranger/infi/NS gonna win?

pretty easy winning with critshot and mos5 as a ranger, but tbh as a hunter it is even easier

this only works in theory, but at amg are so many tards lingering around, that u will get added for sure. and then i would like to see how u fight with a sniperhunter....

and now,in this situation ranger is better again, dualwield and so on...






but we dont need to discuss this again and again. seems like there is a truth and ur opinion

if u strafe there is no difference between dual wield and no dual wield

As a ranger there is a limited number of camu enemies, while as a hunter there is always someone sitting at amg with active camu, which could make it a bit more challenging
Even with rr9 mos5 gimps you a lot vs camu but with anytime snare shouldnt be a problem vs a solo zerg ranger, if there is more than one there is no spec to counter that anyway.

It's like RSP.
Mos5 is the rock.
Camu melee spec the paper.
Assasins the scissors

Celteen wrote:It's like RSP.
Mos5 is the rock.
Camu melee spec the paper.
Assasins the scissors

I loved this!!! So true.

after some discussions with some competent hunter players, i came up with two spec ideas:

50 bc
45 bow
18 sword
31 stealth

RAs: first lw2, the rest to mos up to mos5 (4L8)- then purge1, but that's far ahead...

why this spec? i didn't know that bow above 50 didn't add any more dmg, so i thought 50+11+x would be nice...but if 51+ in bow is fine already, i'll just go for 45 to have rf2 and sure shot

question: with 4Lx i'll have 31+11+3 stealth, which makes 45...not a good idea, right?, especially with not having mos5 until 4L8 i guess...but i'd like to have the last dex buff...hmm...

so - other spec might be:

50 bc
36 bow
36 stealth
26 sword (which is the rest)

no rf2, no sure shot...but better 50 stealth and bow, a little more sword dmg (not that i intend using it very often)

comments?

The whole idea behind mos5 is that you see the others before they can see you and hence crit shot them.
Without 50 stealth that wont work at all, if they are smart they unstealth run in melee range and you are dead ^^

Celteen wrote:The whole idea behind mos5 is that you see the others before they can see you and hence crit shot them.
Without 50 stealth that wont work at all, if they are smart they unstealth run in melee range and you are dead ^^

just what i thought...but it's hard to decide whether to go for rf2/sureshot or purple dex buff...with 31 stealth i'd have both ...but rr9 takes a lot of time

so basically it's 43bc, 45 bow vs 50 bc, 40 bow...hmm...comments?

as a stealther, no matters if assassin or archer(I dont add mins as stealthers, mins can't compete on this ), you MUST have composite 50 stealth AT ALL COST

Ilerget wrote:as a stealther, no matters if assassin or archer(I dont add mins as stealthers, mins can't compete on this ), you MUST have composite 50 stealth AT ALL COST

i..know? never said anything else, just said that the spec WOULD be perfect for me...however i added that i need rr9 for this, so i proposed 2 other specs...and now i want comments on that

-- 50 bs 45 bow for damage its surely better than 50 bow and 43 beastcraft .

Some player here are talking theory about hunt wiheout never playing it in uthgard... I heard some blah blah wiheout any sense, here, hunter is the best stealh wars ....(ROLF) .... Play it before talk please...

The discution about snare sword is senseless, because in experiment in emain,the garrote anytime from infi/ns, and ranger back snare anytime etc >> hunter... In conclusion : a Koby Sniper in melle is a dead hunter.

If you want spe hunter sniper, u just get no way to do something in melle. Or you will just offer a free stun for infi because he just evade your hit ... and maybe if u get luck the time u kite, the viper3 just take more than half of your like just with one poison ...

As ra Mos 5 is the best idea, u get time to criti and made a second shoot, and maybe a third shoot, if u are placed on back of him, or if the guy is simply busy . Purge 1 its simple useless, Purge 2 its useless and a waste of point for a hunter, like i said, ns or infi get ton of poison, and snare if he needed it.... The best RA choice is aug dext and falcon eyes for simply maxx chance to kill him directly wiheout he touch you. That happen sometimes, but clearly, the chance NOW to find a SOLO infi, ns , or ranger now at amg is 10%....

Well good luck.