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Postby Blue » May 02, 2013 15:42

Jonah wrote:All "fixes" and changes to prepare for 1.69 is useless without old RA´s.

So let me get this straight. Going up one version to 1.70 validates all these changes then? Because old RA's were history at that version?
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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Postby Cruell » May 02, 2013 16:33

Blue wrote:
Jonah wrote:Uthgard when i started here was a wonderful place with a right mix of "right" patch level and custom stuff. All was happy and there was a lot of RvR going on. Now its just a big failure bcs of a fixed idea about a stupid patch level no one wants. Just look at the RvR activity, most "good" players and active guilds are gone now and there want be anyone to replace them. THIS is what i call degradation.

Sure. All was better in the past. RvR activity was higher in last years. /sarcasm off

I dont know why all these players complained about low RvR activity then in the last years. What you describe is what happens on Uthgard all the time. Old players are replaced by newer ones. This has nothing to do with some arbitrary craft fix.


I agree with Blue on this, in the 2+ years I have been here there is way more RvR now than ever before and my guild is seeing some old players returning because of this. All in all the server is in better shape.
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Postby zafiter » May 02, 2013 16:51

Blue wrote:All items will degrade livelike.


How is degrade livelike of tajendi items?

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Postby TheKrokodil » May 02, 2013 17:04

By the magic of abstraction and generalization! :)

Items are just items.
Be nice. :)

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Postby Gorim » May 02, 2013 17:07

realac0 wrote:
Jonah wrote:All "fixes" and changes to prepare for 1.69 is useless without old RA´s. Imo its stupid to have 1.80 for stuff concerning NF and 1.69 on rest. Keep whole server at 1.80 untill old RA´s are ready. The double standards i see from the GM´s makes me sick. But they have right about one thing; Free server is not like live. At live GM´s/developers atleast listen to the player base and didnt behave like they where gods.


This!!!

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Postby Blue » May 02, 2013 17:23

Gorim wrote:+1

Players also demanded /level and high exp rates. In many cases players do not really foresee whats good in the long term.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby Austerim » May 02, 2013 17:26

Doesn't mean we never have good ideas! :(
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[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt
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Postby Blue » May 02, 2013 17:29

Austerim wrote:Doesn't mean we never have good ideas! :(

That was not said and you know that we consider good proposals.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby HulkGris » May 02, 2013 17:34

Blue wrote:
HulkGris wrote:And once again, it's not about "comfort", it's about using time to remove things, while there's still some (or at least one) major missing mechanics and lot of other missing or non working features.

Stop using this idiotic argument. The adjustments/removal take only some minutes of our time. Or do you think its hard to remove dragon fly tickets? Its not even a developer needed for that. The majority of time flows into bugfixing and testing stuff on live servers. THAT takes most of the time.
If you don't understand my idiotic argument, i can try to explain again.
Uthard is 1.69 but with
1. Extra features that should not be there
2. Missing features
If you remove all extra, then, Uthgard is just less than DAoC v1.69. Before this removals, we could consider than Uthgard is better than 1.69.

Anyway, your goal is still not clear. 1.69 is the official statement, but a list of custom things exists, so it seems to be hopefully a little better than a version number with no improvement made after. What kind of improvement could we hope to keep on the server ?
Blue wrote:Players also demanded /level and high exp rates. In many cases players do not really foresee whats good in the long term.
Of cours they don't know. Even if your example is false, i really doubt taht a majority of players would ask for /level and higher xp rates.
But the things you remove were already there and it seems to be good in the long term. Do you really think situation will be better in the long term thanks to barrel removal, no more xp off, and more removal ? What you succeed to do is make the older player to leave. You really want the best in the long term ? Try to understand why we have lost so many players last year and why there's still less player than in early 2012 while it's now really easy to connect to Uthgard...
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Postby Infamous » May 02, 2013 17:46

Blue,

First off, thanks for providing this service (to you and staff), and overall I think most players are happy, even though we don't always agree with ALL your decisions. Like when you win in RvR, and we still complain about what could have been done better.

I'd like to make one request. Whenever there are game-changing decisions: make an in-game poll during prime time, and or a combination of in-game, forum, and FB etc. Either-way, it would be appreciated if you let the community have its say. No player-council, or anything, just let people vote and let the shear numbers speak as our opinion.

It would appease the community, and make us ALL feel more involved.
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Postby Abydos » May 02, 2013 18:05

Zerg it would never work, players dont read that login message.

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Postby Blue » May 02, 2013 18:05

There will be no poll. Sorry. We don't poll on features were we already made the decision ourself.

As already mentioned, most players can't foresee whats good in the long term. This is just illusion. We have the player council were we discuss things from time to time and thats it.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later.

"It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something
is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure."


Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard"
Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

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Postby fiskgrodan » May 02, 2013 18:24

Remove gems from patch 1.72

Keep rvr horse mounts and from darkness rising expansion and sparkling unicorns, and even implement bardings for them.

Nice consistency.
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Postby deuter » May 02, 2013 20:10

Blue wrote:We have the player council were we discuss things from time to time and thats it.


;) blue - can u explain me why i got an order to make as much brilliant spellstones as possible just 3-4 days before nerf ?

i'm just wondering ^^

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