Hello everyone I am new to Uthgard and looking to play a skald or warrior speced for hammer. Could anyone provide me with some commonly used endgame hammers so I could start planing my template? I will probably use all crafted armor, but I would like to know what other players are using as far as their hammer goes. Thank you!

Currently using the Recruit's Hammer and honestly quite satisfied.

Crafted or the expensive Grim Maul !

the grim maul is the way to go.

Hammer + 5
Str + 19
Slash + 9%
Heat + 8%

it's either that or get a crafted MP one, so you can set your own stats or skills on it.

jeff43023 wrote:Hello everyone I am new to Uthgard and looking to play a skald or warrior speced for hammer. Could anyone provide me with some commonly used endgame hammers so I could start planing my template? I will probably use all crafted armor, but I would like to know what other players are using as far as their hammer goes. Thank you!

1h

Grim maul(you will not use in in group as a warrior because it's too slow for snare, but it's ok for solo cause it has lifedrain proc)

Dread soul splitter, dreaded soul splitter, flawless dreaded soul splitter - probably best hammers you can find for a warrior or a skald(although dread soul splitter has crap stats). All have nice skin, they are fast and have lifedrain proc. Keep in mind you will acquire one of these very hard, since they don't drop anymore.

2h

Dragonstorm(usable on solo players, but using it is a double edged sword on a skald if your dot ticks and you need to snare and mezz) - good for solo warr and thane

Cloudburst - probably best hammer for any class that uses 2h hammer, since it has a dexqui debuff

Blackcloud crusher - ghetto dragonstorm(faster) with ****** skin

Centurio's doctrine - only thing that makes it ok is nice skin(if you are into that) and 5.6 speed if you like spike dmg(although damage difference is not epic compared to player crafted or cloudburst, especially since it's a 99% quality hammer).


If you are a new player, I would recommend player crafted stuff, it's easier to build a template with it, and it's way cheaper.

What do you think about the basalt or brimstone 2h hammer?

Raggnar wrote:1h

Grim maul(you will not use in in group as a warrior because it's too slow for snare, but it's ok for solo cause it has lifedrain proc)

Dread soul splitter, dreaded soul splitter, flawless dreaded soul splitter - probably best hammers you can find for a warrior or a skald(although dread soul splitter has crap stats). All have nice skin, they are fast and have lifedrain proc. Keep in mind you will acquire one of these very hard, since they don't drop anymore.

well if your in a group chances are really high you have some form of attack speed haste, dex / quick..... so i'd rock that!

Krossfire wrote:

Raggnar wrote:1h

Grim maul(you will not use in in group as a warrior because it's too slow for snare, but it's ok for solo cause it has lifedrain proc)

Dread soul splitter, dreaded soul splitter, flawless dreaded soul splitter - probably best hammers you can find for a warrior or a skald(although dread soul splitter has crap stats). All have nice skin, they are fast and have lifedrain proc. Keep in mind you will acquire one of these very hard, since they don't drop anymore.

well if your in a group chances are really high you have some form of attack speed haste, dex / quick..... so i'd rock that!

Maybe because you will be combat speed debuffed/dexqui debuffed/sheared many times + you will not have celerity most of the time, so you wanna get as close to cap attack speed as you can with 1h weapon. Go and try to slam+snare a BM with 360 evade with warden in group. Using grim maul in group play on warrior is retarded, it's a good solo hammer due to nice solo proc but in group I'd go with a player crafted.

difference of opinion then granted i play my warrior as a kobold so the grim maul is fine for me.

Krossfire wrote:difference of opinion then granted i play my warrior as a kobold so the grim maul is fine for me.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. A troll warrior with 3.1 weapon swings faster than a kobold with 4.1 speed weapon. Spamming bleed styles on zerker is fine for you too, which doesn't mean it makes any sense. There is absolutely no reason to use a slow 1h hammer on a group warrior, and lifedrain proc makes no difference in group anyway, especially not on warrior. So if you are using grim maul for nice skin, that's your choice, but making it sound like it's good and that you swing it fast because you are a kobold is just being ignorant.

Raggnar wrote:

Krossfire wrote:difference of opinion then granted i play my warrior as a kobold so the grim maul is fine for me.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. A troll warrior with 3.1 weapon swings faster than a kobold with 4.1 speed weapon. Spamming bleed styles on zerker is fine for you too, which doesn't mean it makes any sense. There is absolutely no reason to use a slow 1h hammer on a group warrior, and lifedrain proc makes no difference in group anyway, especially not on warrior. So if you are using grim maul for nice skin, that's your choice, but making it sound like it's good and that you swing it fast because you are a kobold is just being ignorant.

well clearly you must be the ignorant one.. because as i said IF your grouped, you have Buffs, and being a kobold i have a bit more quickness. so i got buffs, and i got more quickness, so i'll be swinging just fine, and on top of that i'll do More damage then the 3.1 hammer.

so clearly i Do know what i am talking about. you keep failing to put in the buffs + more then likely if it's a good group your going to have a haste from a healer. so i think i swing just fine. and Ohh damn, i use grim maul for my warrior And my zerker.... it's just a damn good hammer. you cant craft a higher utility hammer, so why the hell Not use it then? ignorant tools will always be ignorant tools. no wonder nomad jarl left.

to many people here think they know everything about everything, and they are always 100% correct. my suggestion Jeff is to learn to see through all their crap they spew forth like a fact. so just choose something that fits for you, and go with it. if you need i can also help you make a template.

For reference, a kobold will swing a 4.1 (with yellow haste and red DQ) @ 2.23 and a 3.1 @ 1.68



So its about 1/2 a second slower. Whether that's critical is up to the person playing warrior.

fastest crafted 1h hammer, slowest crafted 2h sword. Both with coldprocs for warrior. (spec : 29 hammer 50 sword) >>>> all
not only that you swing slower with a slow 1 hander, the worst part about it is that the delay when swapping to 2hand is higher.

Krossfire wrote:

Raggnar wrote:

Krossfire wrote:difference of opinion then granted i play my warrior as a kobold so the grim maul is fine for me.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about. A troll warrior with 3.1 weapon swings faster than a kobold with 4.1 speed weapon. Spamming bleed styles on zerker is fine for you too, which doesn't mean it makes any sense. There is absolutely no reason to use a slow 1h hammer on a group warrior, and lifedrain proc makes no difference in group anyway, especially not on warrior. So if you are using grim maul for nice skin, that's your choice, but making it sound like it's good and that you swing it fast because you are a kobold is just being ignorant.

well clearly you must be the ignorant one.. because as i said IF your grouped, you have Buffs, and being a kobold i have a bit more quickness. so i got buffs, and i got more quickness, so i'll be swinging just fine, and on top of that i'll do More damage then the 3.1 hammer.

so clearly i Do know what i am talking about. you keep failing to put in the buffs + more then likely if it's a good group your going to have a haste from a healer. so i think i swing just fine. and Ohh damn, i use grim maul for my warrior And my zerker.... it's just a damn good hammer. you cant craft a higher utility hammer, so why the hell Not use it then? ignorant tools will always be ignorant tools. no wonder nomad jarl left.

to many people here think they know everything about everything, and they are always 100% correct. my suggestion Jeff is to learn to see through all their crap they spew forth like a fact. so just choose something that fits for you, and go with it. if you need i can also help you make a template.

I did count in the buffs, and all my templates have charges + i take +10 qui on all my tanks when creating them. And yes, I am talking about facts. Why is grim maul DAMN GOOD, because of high utility? If your template caps with a player crafted or any other hammer, then it caps...you do understand that? Grim maul will not give you overcaps on stats or resists xD. Also, as I've stated earlier, you often get debuffed, so your swing speed is lowered. As for dealing damage with one handed hammer, it's a joke. Your role in group is not to deal damage, it's to guard and snare. If you wanna drop something in the back with the RM, you will do it with your 2hander and probably have celerity. "More" damage with 4.1, yeah I bet group is counting on that little more you can deal with a couple of snares you land on offensive tanks or whatever you are snaring.

Sure, you will swing fine on dolls, but on actual players you will not be fast enough. Especially on hibs, as i've stated earlier. Again, try fighting a hib tank group where BM's have 360 evade and you have Woody spamming blade turn + pbt up. Yeah, split seconds do matter in such situations.

Seriously man, you are the one that always has something to say and always gives advice, but you are a complete noob on all classes you play. When people asked you why do you not have pbaoe disease on your shaman, you said "WELL YOU KNOW, I HEAL YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW". As for Jeff, most people gave him good advice, only you talk crap about class you have no idea how to play or how game mechanics work. Before I rolled my warrior, I've talked to most of the good def tanks I encountered on my zerker, and they have told me exact same things Nef melody and me are typing here. Your "WELL I AM IN A GROUP AND HAVE BUFFS" attitude is also failed, because you don't count in enemy's weapons to lower your weapon speed. And besides, there are swing speed calculators you can use and see for yourself.

And yes, grim maul is a nice hammer for solo, but for group it's just a weapon that makes template more expensive for no reason and it has fail swing speed for a warrior. Also, of course you will use it on a zerker cause you need a slow main hand weapon, but on a warrior it's fail. In moments like these I actually like people like Austerim, at least he has some brains to say things that make sense, although he can be iritating at times .

Thanks for all the helpful information everyone!