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Postby Fiordiluna » Mar 23, 2013 14:41

Jezzmin wrote:however, there's a bug with charmed spiders or insects...they don't run with 4x/3x speed :(


Bug Report !

Back to reason, it's true. Hunter's pet can manage to follow if the hunter sprints, and somewhat stays in range even with hunter speed. But charmed pets will be left behind even by simply sprinting. In PVE the arachite priest (the one and only useful charmable pet in midgard -.- ) cannot follow you when you use your basic mount !

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Postby Seyha » Apr 23, 2013 22:59

So, did you enjoy your bowspec hunter, Jezzmin?
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Postby Jezzmin » Apr 27, 2013 15:17

Seyha wrote:So, did you enjoy your bowspec hunter, Jezzmin?


yap, quite a lot :D

killed a bard-bm-duo in braemar today :D...bard was on keep-wall and bm was hitting door (alb-owned)...i petted + critshot the bard and kept running from the bm (obviously no charge)...when the bard was down i waited for the bm to get out of ck then shoot...when he came for me i ran away and pet did the rest :D...

really nice, though not as easy as i thought...it's hard to determine when to attack and when not, especially as i'm not very familiar with fighting vs albs even though i know the classes very good...

currently level 33 and i'm 21 bc, 30 bow, 26 stealth, 10 sword...fine so far...killed orange bard in melee the other day :D

my first live-char was inf (in eu-beta as well as after release) and it's nice to play a stealther once again, though i never liked stealth classes once i was done with my inf (stopped after hitting rr5, which was quite a lot back then)...
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Postby Filters » Aug 09, 2013 11:29

I want try Sword and Shield in this day whit a sniper spec, im not sure of result but i wanna try ;)
50 BS 40 Bow 35 Stealth 22 Sword
Mos5 Augh Dex 2 Lw 1 Eye 3

Atm im running same but whit spear and work well
I hope all my dex help whit shield for block something ;)
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Postby Celteen » Aug 09, 2013 12:08

Dex is more or less usless for blocking, you won't block better with 20 more dex, it's 1 % more block chance and 0.5 % more evade.
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Postby imamizer » Aug 09, 2013 13:43

I remember I saw Blue saying the block rate is fixed at %10 for non-shield spec classes and it cannot be increased with dex. Maybe I'm worng but it feels right when I play a healing class, skald or minstrel.

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Postby Filters » Aug 09, 2013 13:50

imamizer wrote:I remember I saw Blue saying the block rate is fixed at %10 for non-shield spec classes and it cannot be increased with dex. Maybe I'm worng but it feels right when I play a healing class, skald or minstrel.


Mm mm i hope no :p Whit 300 dex i hope block something otherwise is very usefull ....
And what about Evade III % of? How much is and how much influence dex in this?
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Postby Celteen » Aug 09, 2013 15:17

Its 50/50 dex/quick and won't help you much, 20 dex is ~0.5% better evade.
Evade III is 3*5% = 15% evade
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Postby Filters » Aug 10, 2013 22:25

Celteen wrote:Its 50/50 dex/quick and won't help you much, 20 dex is ~0.5% better evade.
Evade III is 3*5% = 15% evade


So i try all today and the conclusion is... a little bit more defence but the damage its riduculus using a sword 100% 16.5 dps and 3.0 speed, 39 total spec in sword.
I think respec another time in spear, and other things is the weaponskill ridiculos, 950 ~
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Postby holsten-knight » Aug 11, 2013 11:33

with a 1h sword the dmg should be low, as you don't get the 2h dmg bonus, with a 2h sword the dmg should be close to the spear dmg, except that sword is only str based while spear is str+dex/2, which suits the hunter stats better.

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Postby RonELuvv » Aug 11, 2013 19:23

holsten-knight wrote:with a 1h sword the dmg should be low, as you don't get the 2h dmg bonus, with a 2h sword the dmg should be close to the spear dmg, except that sword is only str based while spear is str+dex/2, which suits the hunter stats better.


Not to mention the bad matchups you have with only having access to blades dmg rather than blades/pierce that you get with spear.

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Postby Daetren » Aug 12, 2013 19:58

Just a thought, but 39 spec spear for back stun is one of the MOST useful tools a hunter has. Walk thru stun and run is very effective for kiting or even making the enemy purge. Prob no room in your spec Jez but its considerably effective for kiting.
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Postby Czzarre » Aug 13, 2013 03:46

Daetren wrote: ... Walk thru stun and run is very effective for kiting or even making the enemy purge. ...


Yea this is one of those things that sounds easy on paper but is very difficult in practice. I know of players who say they can do this, BUt I have yet to be successful.

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Postby RonELuvv » Aug 13, 2013 04:33

I'll flat out say that I suck at it, and I'm pretty good at the side stun on ranger. I know HOW to do it, I just cant quite get it done. The combination of slow spear and having to be on the backside/face just messes up my timing. More often than not I end up with a 'Target not in view' then an unstyled hit. I would prefer to use the 2 style anytimer w/ snare and use the evade styles and focus on high growth rate hits.

Intimid is the only hunter I know of that I have witnessed get it off at a good rate and even he had trouble on some nights. That's the reason why at 8L0 I'm going down to 32 spear and 50 BC. The higher d/q buff will help out my dmg output more then the 1 in 10 fights that I use the rear stun. I will admit that it comes in very handy vs. opponents that are running away, but other than that I never use it. I will say, as Ist pointed out, IF you can perform the rear stun in combat consistently then it is a HUGE help. But that's IF you can perform it consistently. If you are dying every other fight trying to get it off then its not worth it imo.

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Postby Celteen » Aug 13, 2013 10:33

Backstyles are as easy as side styles, problem is more the slow swing speed.
With the reaver I can backstyle almost anytime if I get the "flow" but sometimes I don't get off even one.
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