Hello all,
this may be a stupid question but could it be that the 2h bonus ain´t working here? Currently hibs have no Str-bonus with relics but rangers keep hitting me with their mainhand for around 110 dmg (+buff + offhand) while i hit them for around 120 (2h sword; 4.7 speed). I am aware that i fight against resistant armor and they probably use slash-dmg against me but getting hit
for the same damage in half the time lets me think something is wrong since so many ofter things ain´t working like they should.

the ranger probably had high physical defense (like 4 or 5), plus resistant armor and your armor weak to his dmg type+self buffs+charges+pots.
2h dmg does feel wrong here, but all tests showed it is livelike.

Ranger was rr4 and had mos3. so normally you wont go for pd4 without getting purge 2 before. and if i saw it right he also used at least ip1, maybe even 2.

Talyn wrote:Hello all,
this may be a stupid question but could it be that the 2h bonus ain´t working here? Currently hibs have no Str-bonus with relics but rangers keep hitting me with their mainhand for around 110 dmg (+buff + offhand) while i hit them for around 120 (2h sword; 4.7 speed). I am aware that i fight against resistant armor and they probably use slash-dmg against me but getting hit
for the same damage in half the time lets me think something is wrong since so many ofter things ain´t working like they should.

Like you said, hibernian reinforced is resistant to slash, and he might have pd1 or 2 as fillers. Also, you are using a pretty fast 2h sword, not a slow one. Also, you didn't say if you were buffed or not, and remember that rangers have base str buff(if he was using a slash wep).

P.S.

You did not specify what class were you playing and what your spec is.

selfbuffed - hunter - lvl 50, 40+14 sword

slow sword means even less dmg thanks to evade-quote. hunter pet seems not to count as a second attacker

Talyn wrote:selfbuffed - hunter - lvl 50, 40+14 sword

slow sword means even less dmg thanks to evade-quote. hunter pet seems not to count as a second attacker

Are you using STRCON charge or base str charge? I mean, you can't expect spike dmg with a fast weapon.

nope. but i espect being eye on eye with a ranger because hunters got some "+dmg patch". even when i face the odds of non vulnerable armor. and since i am using a 2h (even a fast one) and my enemy a 1h (it was stated as a longsword -> 3.5 Speed if Internet doesn´t lie) i think in the end we should end up doing the same dmg (incl. pet + dmg-buff).

no way can a hunter expect to deal the same dmg as a ranger in melee here in this setting. Guess why there are so many ranger out, it is easy mode.

Go for dragonfury 2h, 5.7 speed , and go for str single potion, and str/con charge, and go for a norse ! With this u will deal.

oh yeah, a sword kobold hunter would be an epic fail

IN addition to the Realm ability of physical Defense (PD), the ranger may have also used a +AF charge which would mitigate some of your damage. I know Sword hunters are solid, but I prefer spear for the very reason that I can always ensure my damage is at least neutral to their armor .

For rangers, I always have a SC -52 STr/Con debuff charge ready. Thats the first thing to hit when engaging any stealther you'll fight. SC it onto your 1h sword/shield and it can be activated at any point (even if your wielding the 2H weapon). The spear hunter is somewhat resistant against this (and other -Str) debuff, where as the sword hunter is hit hardest.

Good luck.

Torential

thanks for the advise but since it is my first char most options ain´t anywhere near my "money".
as a hunter you are mostly not welcome in a group; df ain´t that often available and getting my craft (fletcher) to a lvl where i can really make use of it is very costly. heck i even ain´t having any armor-procs right now. not to mention my 99% equip.

so if i can make it to a respec stone i will probably switch to spear. used to play that on live. but with the recent and likely coming changes on uthgard i even don´t know if it is worth the time ... with old ras archers are a dead class.

*rolls up his sleeves*

OK Talyn, Im hoping to give you a boost.
first char as a stealther..yea thats tough. Nothing we can do about it right now ..you are 50
You need money with a group ...er ...challenged class. Can be done!
Salvaging is the key to most money on Uthgard. Check out the salvaging guide (bunch of posts on these forums, or try google: DAOC salvage guide). You have fletching. If you have nothing but time you can make 1.5plat just by running skill 500 through skill 600 craft tasks throughout jordheim (yea, its boring but can be done) . The target you want is like ~800 metalwork/woodwork/leatherwork (perhaps its lower). Then you can easily salvage items from DF seals and all around the zones.
Other good places for salvage drops
Lower levels of spindelhalla
Icestrider mountainside camp in Uppland
hollow men encampment in Snowdonia

Dont have the time, money, patience or the carple tunnel to make a 800 level crafter? OK farm it. With the recent loss of Taj a lot of money is to be made in older zones like malmo and raum. Here your group unfriendliness can do something that other characters only wish they can do ...stealth throughout the whole zone and solo farm mobs for drops ...safely at range!
I suggest you stealth and find the good sniper spots for
Anrulv
ANrid
Deskulva
http://www.valmerwolf.com/mappe/Midgard ... lmohus.jpg

MOst of those are easy orange to yellow con. Drops items that can be sold for up to 2plat depending (Ring of BUtcher)

Give me a tell in game and I would be happy to show you the ropes for Malmo. Im sure others can get you going for raum

Torential

P.s.: I have a LGM alch, I can proc yer armor