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Postby Lemor » Dec 30, 2013 13:26

So ive been leveling a skald lately (currently lvl45) and saw the frontpage talking about implementing old ras. I took a look at them and it seems that skalds looses all their toys with old ras.
What will happen to them in rvr after the changes? Will they still be needed if alone for speed song?
I would really hate to have to stop playing this class cause i really like it, but if im gonna be useless in rvr whats the point?
Thoughts?

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Postby Raggnar » Dec 30, 2013 13:40

Lemor wrote:So ive been leveling a skald lately (currently lvl45) and saw the frontpage talking about implementing old ras. I took a look at them and it seems that skalds looses all their toys with old ras.
What will happen to them in rvr after the changes? Will they still be needed if alone for speed song?
I would really hate to have to stop playing this class cause i really like it, but if im gonna be useless in rvr whats the point?
Thoughts?


Skalds suck even now, unless they are high rr and know how to play skald(which most don't, even the high rr ones). With old RA's I wouldn't count on them being good for group.
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Postby Maidrion » Dec 30, 2013 14:25

In optimized RvR they'll blow. That said there's no way of knowing if old RA's will come anytime soon (they first announced them 2-3 years ago). Since you're alrdy 45 you should just finish those last few levels to be fair.
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Postby Raggnar » Dec 30, 2013 14:46

Maidrion wrote:In optimized RvR they'll blow. That said there's no way of knowing if old RA's will come anytime soon (they first announced them 2-3 years ago). Since you're alrdy 45 you should just finish those last few levels to be fair.


Yep. Skald will still be fun for solo or duo with shaman.
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Postby Lemor » Dec 30, 2013 15:31

Okay so not all hope is lost yet :)
Hopefully they will reconsider not implementing them as it breaks half of the classes that are already not that great :( .Anyone else think that a lot of players will leave one we get old ras?
Ill just use my skald for farming and doing raids while we still have aotg available, itll be hard to get everything since thid is going down tomorrow and i really need aotg2 for pve.
But i dont see how skalds will solo without ip/purge and sos

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Postby Maidrion » Dec 30, 2013 17:41

Lemor wrote:Okay so not all hope is lost yet :)
Hopefully they will reconsider not implementing them as it breaks half of the classes that are already not that great :( .Anyone else think that a lot of players will leave one we get old ras?


I'm guessing that, like when we got OF, we'll get a big influx of players in the short term that want to try them out. Then the glaring faults that the RA system has will become evident and it will calm down again. It's not going to kill the server, there's still too many people on this server that love the game, if not the server.

Lemor wrote:Ill just use my skald for farming and doing raids while we still have aotg available, itll be hard to get everything since thid is going down tomorrow and i really need aotg2 for pve.


If you really want to just make a PvE bot out of it, you really don't need that many realm levels. It's not like it's impossible to get RR3-4-5 outside of thid. There's quite some keep raiding rvr that's open for anyone.

Lemor wrote:But i dont see how skalds will solo without ip/purge and sos


You still get IP and purge and better than what they are now. They're just on such a stupidly long timer and you're forced to take First Aid 2 to get IP. So yeah if you win the whos-RAs-are-up coinflip you'll be fine solo.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040104093937/http://www.camelotherald.com/realmabilities/skald.html

This will give you an idea of what your skald can get with old RA's.
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Postby Samaritu » Dec 30, 2013 18:51

Raggnar wrote:
Maidrion wrote:In optimized RvR they'll blow. That said there's no way of knowing if old RA's will come anytime soon (they first announced them 2-3 years ago). Since you're alrdy 45 you should just finish those last few levels to be fair.


Yep. Skald will still be fun for solo or duo with shaman.


Skald/healer is also nice. Was great fun yesterday against 4 and 5 man stealther groups :)
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Postby Raggnar » Dec 30, 2013 22:12

Samaritu wrote:
Raggnar wrote:
Maidrion wrote:In optimized RvR they'll blow. That said there's no way of knowing if old RA's will come anytime soon (they first announced them 2-3 years ago). Since you're alrdy 45 you should just finish those last few levels to be fair.


Yep. Skald will still be fun for solo or duo with shaman.


Skald/healer is also nice. Was great fun yesterday against 4 and 5 man stealther groups :)


Y with endo pots and some charges skald is good for any duo, even with zerker or so.
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Postby Galandriel2 » Jan 04, 2014 00:48

depends more on sham/healer/whatever than on the skald : )
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[12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy galandriel and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks
[23:52] <Skarz> u are best skald i seen for long time

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Postby Samaritu » Jan 04, 2014 11:14

Galandriel2 wrote:depends more on sham/healer/whatever than on the skald : )


If you play the skald maybe :D
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Postby warlogy » Jan 09, 2014 08:31

Old ra's won't be that bad for the skald. you'll actually be able to mez people with out them purging it everytime. and you get that nifty mastery of arms which increases your swing speed. people will still need speed 5 in groups too. oh and first aid 2 is actually a pretty good ra for skalds as you get to use it while your enemy is mezzed, or while you are kiting.

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Postby Oswaldo » Feb 21, 2014 02:06

warlogy wrote:Old ra's won't be that bad for the skald. you'll actually be able to mez people with out them purging it everytime. and you get that nifty mastery of arms which increases your swing speed. people will still need speed 5 in groups too. oh and first aid 2 is actually a pretty good ra for skalds as you get to use it while your enemy is mezzed, or while you are kiting.


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Postby Galandriel2 » Feb 22, 2014 10:24

he is the new skald fuhrer
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[12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy galandriel and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks
[23:52] <Skarz> u are best skald i seen for long time


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