I'm all for old ra's i guess ,

But i feel like its just going to further limit the class's we can play. whats a noob like me gonna do with out charge? lol

the answer - roll a sneak.

I think with uth 2.0 "roll a sneak" is the answer to all life's problems.

by sneak i mean anything other than a hunter.

holsten-knight wrote:

Nef Melody wrote:Theurg is quite bad with old ra's -

On page 11 you agreed that theurg is op, now he is quite bad. Too much genesis I guess.
Makes even the smartest forget everything about how the real daoc was and should be.

well theurgist is still strong with old ra's and infact OP, but the other alb chars that are available are just superior. Has just been awhile that I played with old ra's so I couldn't judge all of it before playing with old ra's again.

The main reason theurg is 10x better with new ra's is because of Concentration3 taking that away theurg is ALOT weaker compared to new ra's

@Steel-
Friar is just extremely vulnerable to roots which is like the biggest downside, with new ra's it's debateable but old ra friar is just a no go for 8men imo.

best farming class on mid ?

Best farming class out of all 3 realms?

Love me Babby wrote:best farming class on mid ?

Best farming class out of all 3 realms?

Wrong topic, but I would say any petpull classes and the best one might be necromancer if you go for solo farming or duo with buffbot.

Edith: Animist is good for farming as well if you know how to handle it.

Love me Babby wrote:best farming class on mid ?

Best farming class out of all 3 realms?

me.

btw cait you should think about your post again... friar vulnerable to roots? he is the one who makes the whole group more resistant against midgard root!
and even on theurg you just talk bs, theurgist is weaker because of missing conc3?... wow all casters wont have it anymore... but for that they have 100% moc.... where even moc2 was already a pain on a theurg.

i guess people should start to use their brains instead of listen to a wannabe pro gamer.
i mean i am a fckin noob and can already tell you that your argue is totally crap.

wake up people, dont let nyone push your into 0815 setups/classes !

MoC 2 was available every 10 min for 30 sec.
MoC on a theurg with old RA is every 30 min for 15 sec which is more than useless, one slam and that's it.
Also conc 3 was imba and the fights lastet way longer.
Still a nice char and I wouldn't run without a good one. But a 0815 player on a theurg is a wasted slot with old RA, while it was a beast even if a monkey played it during new RA times

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:btw cait you should think about your post again... friar vulnerable to roots? he is the one who makes the whole group more resistant against midgard root!
and even on theurg you just talk bs, theurgist is weaker because of missing conc3?... wow all casters wont have it anymore... but for that they have 100% moc.... where even moc2 was already a pain on a theurg.

i guess people should start to use their brains instead of listen to a wannabe pro gamer.
i mean i am a fckin noob and can already tell you that your argue is totally crap.

wake up people, dont let nyone push your into 0815 setups/classes !

I have no clue why you're attacking me personally while I'm trying to help people, but that's your own problem I guess since I don't really care

OT :
It is true that all casters loose conc3, but theurg and sorc where the chars that could utilize it the most out of every char in the game (maybe bd aswell). Good groups would always rupt the theurg as the highest priority target, means qc + conc is the only reliable possibility for constant rupt.
New RA moc : 15min Timer
Old Ra moc : 30 min timer 15sec duration
Concentration 3 - 30 sec timer

Good hib groups would always just counter a moccing theurg with TWF (with new ra's) while there was absolutely no counter to a Conc3 theurg spamming pets constantly even while being rupted.
Theurg is surely not a bad character but IN MY OPINION there are better choices that alb grps with old ra can take while I would never replace a theurg with new ra's
Most hilarious point is claiming Friar makes the grp less vulnerable to root. You know that Friar offers elemental resists, right ?
(hint : all mid roots are matter or body, druid root is body)
A rooted friar can do NOTHING and will be rooted forever without DET (which friar had with new ra's)
You have no ranged rupt except for a taunt every 30sec, and if you have nearsight + root (which happens frequently you're also useless as a healer) - clerics can still spread with root + ns.

Friar might be okayish in a few scenarios, like playing alb tankgrp with minstrel against castergps - but in the majority of setups & matchups friar is just TRASH, sorry to disturb your dilusional perception of daoc rvr.

doublepost

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:

-l- Edgtho -l- wrote:...he is the one who makes the whole group more resistant against midgard root!
...

Midgard root is still body/matter buddy

While the friar is getting all the attention of hib/mid root classes, they wont have time to root other group members!

#daoctheorycrafting

Ino wrote:While the friar is getting all the attention of hib/mid root classes, they wont have time to root other group members!

#daoctheorycrafting

Forgot that one, shame on me

Is it a caster? ... is it a healer?! ... OMFG NO, IT´S A F R I A R


P.S. just root him - we won

nur um das mal festzuhalten...

midgard primär root ist nunmal schamane... selten sah ich midgard caster...(so wie du ja argumentierst)
schamane ist matter... friar bringt matter... oh heiler root? selten, zu selten...
achja xacrag hat immer gerooted und wurde dafür angeflamed wie scheiße er heiler spielt.. (was aber mehr auf amnesie bezogen war aber ist ja egal ich darf mir die wahrheit ja hindrehen wie ich will)
ausserdem sind alle caster von conc3 betroffen... mentalist zb ist nicht mehr dazu befähigt eben mal 2 mit qc demezz zu befreien.
achja es gibt ja kaum mentalisten im pvp... hmm ja dann hast du natürlich recht!

naja labert ihr euern müll.. du musst nur einsehen das deine aussagen cait einen großen einfluss bei unerfahrenen spielern haben.
ich finde es verwerflich erst eine oder mehrere klassen runterzureden und hinterher evtl sich darüber zu beschweren das es nicht genug von a oder b gibt.

aber requiem läuft ja eh so gut wie nie pug... also richtige pug mit irgendwelchen spaniern oder italienern.
solltet ihr evtl mal in erwägung ziehen um wieder daoc zu sehen und nicht euer pro gamer jump´n´run

ich möchte dich auch nicht persönlich angreifen, mit nichten, ich finde nur, wie schon erwähnt, das deine aussagen einen zu großen einfluss haben auf bestimmte spielergrupen. und wenn wir schon vorm rerelease von uth wieder die gruppen auf 3-4 klassen begrenzen... dann weis ich wie uth nach 1 jahr wieder aussieht (NICHT DER EINZIGE FAKTOR BEVOR EINER DARÜBER HEULT)

sry aber is meine meinung.

/ger off