holsten-knight wrote:[...]the old RA PF snare (only a short duration 30% snare) [...]

isn't it 50% snare?:

When active, if the tank's selected target turns and runs, the tank has a 35% chance of hitting and proccing a 50% snare for 10 seconds.

Nef Melody wrote:Unbreakable,no immunity - it doesn't get overwritten by other snare effects but stacks with them. In other words it counts like a unique snaring effect that has nothing to do with other roots/snares.

Nope.

This was a massive bug that got introduced kinda late during Uth 1.0.
It was reported back then, but mostly ignored, and many of the GMs disputed it without thinking.
However it should be fixed for Uth 2.0.
So do not expect PF + Conquer + Disease + Snare poison to stack, like it did during late Uth 1.0!

I think you're mistaking the old RA PF which you have to invest 14 points in with the new ra pf that has been given to all lighttanks at lvl 24 with the new ra system.

pf(unique snare effect)+disease+any given snare should stack as far as I know. The new RA pf has just been the same as any snare, means it would break on dmg, not work on root immu and not stack with any other snaring effect except for disease.

Nef Melody wrote:pf(unique snare effect)+disease+any given snare should stack as far as I know.

If you are able to prove that, it would surprise me.

The greatest value should count.
Why would giving assassins a 'free' long duration root be a good idea?
(garrote + snare poison + disease [+ str debuff to encumber])

pf is the only unique snare effect besides disease and garotte should not stack with snare psn

Nef Melody wrote:pf is the only unique snare effect besides disease and garotte should not stack with snare psn

If you are able to find any solid data on that, I am sure they'll allow such a behaviour into the changes.

Liss wrote:

Nef Melody wrote:pf is the only unique snare effect besides disease and garotte should not stack with snare psn

If you are able to find any solid data on that, I am sure they'll allow such a behaviour into the changes.

Uthgard is and will always be a custom server, I'm not here to do research nor to provide any exact information. I recall from memory and my purpose is more to give lesser experienced players or RvR players that didn't play pre nf/new ras some advice, not to be some kind of daoc encyclopedia.

Liss turned it back to 60% / 40% ! Exciting!

Nef Melody wrote:

Liss wrote:

Nef Melody wrote:pf is the only unique snare effect besides disease and garotte should not stack with snare psn

If you are able to find any solid data on that, I am sure they'll allow such a behaviour into the changes.

Uthgard is and will always be a custom server.

Not when it comes to mechanics. Please let us know if you know something is not working correctly, however be ready to back up your statements with logs, patchnotes, or videos as we need to know exactly how it worked and a "I think this is how it worked" is not going to help us much in achieving that.

On a side note, it's funny how you claim not to be an encyclopedia and then run a thread like this. ^^ But I will let you get back to it, have fun.

Trishin wrote:Not when it comes to mechanics. Please let us know if you know something is not working correctly, however be ready to back up your statements with logs, patchnotes, or videos as we need to know exactly how it worked and a "I think this is how it worked" is not going to help us much in achieving that.

It's not in my interest helping you to achieve anything, I want to help players with their decision making. If your only contribution to the topic is making fun of me for trying to help players please stay away - this is a custom server, even when it comes to mechanics, unless you have old server information. Maybe your simulation comes close to that but nothing more.

Nef Melody wrote:

Trishin wrote:Not when it comes to mechanics. Please let us know if you know something is not working correctly, however be ready to back up your statements with logs, patchnotes, or videos as we need to know exactly how it worked and a "I think this is how it worked" is not going to help us much in achieving that.

It's not in my interest helping you to achieve anything, I want to help players with their decision making. If your only contribution to the topic is making fun of me for trying to help players please stay away - this is a custom server, even when it comes to mechanics, unless you have old server information. Maybe your simulation comes close to that but nothing more.

Sorry for assuming you wanted the project to succeed. I will not make that mistake again in the future. As I said: Have fun playing encyclopedia/paper daoc.

Trishin wrote:Sorry for assuming you wanted the project to succeed. I will not make that mistake again in the future. As I said: Have fun playing encyclopedia/paper daoc.

jeez... could you possibly sound any more butthurt, heartbroken, dramatic and teenage-pained than that?
i get goosebumps from embarassement by reading this.

riad wrote:

Trishin wrote:Sorry for assuming you wanted the project to succeed. I will not make that mistake again in the future. As I said: Have fun playing encyclopedia/paper daoc.

jeez... could you possibly sound any more butthurt, heartbroken, dramatic and teenage-pained than that?
i get goosebumps from embarassement by reading this.

Why the ****** do people believe I am you? ****** off and stop giving people the impression that im you or im gonna gut you tonight son.

Ok all that aside...
@Nef Melody

Can you tell me how minstrel flute mez works? I've heard conflicting things between here and Genesis.
Both in regards to casting it and interrupts for the minstrel and the target.

Oswaldo wrote:

riad wrote:

Trishin wrote:Sorry for assuming you wanted the project to succeed. I will not make that mistake again in the future. As I said: Have fun playing encyclopedia/paper daoc.

jeez... could you possibly sound any more butthurt, heartbroken, dramatic and teenage-pained than that?
i get goosebumps from embarassement by reading this.

Why the ****** do people believe I am you? ****** off and stop giving people the impression that im you or im gonna gut you tonight son.

meh... no more point in denying then i guess. how did i reveal myself?