Nezix wrote:Ok all that aside...
@Nef Melody

Can you tell me how minstrel flute mez works? I've heard conflicting things between here and Genesis.
Both in regards to casting it and interrupts for the minstrel and the target.

What's wrong about genesis is that there is a 2nd los check when the song has finished, I think it is like that on live now aswell. At classic times there was no 2nd los check, I'll give an example what that means.

Minstrel starts the flute mezz - the target moves out of los (behind a wall e.g.) the song would still be running and mezz as soon as the target crosses los again. Another example : you could start the flute mezz on a target, turn 180° and run as long as you wish until turning around for an instant mezz.

On Genesis Minstrel mezz is ruptable via amnesia, this should not be the case. The perma rupt through pulse when the target has mezz immunity is wrong aswell.

Thanks Nef. Don't be mad at me but I was kind of testing you You did great though so cheers!

Nezix wrote:Thanks Nef. Don't be mad at me but I was kind of testing you You did great though so cheers!

you ever think that maybe he was the one testing you?

why can't i like my own post? mods???

dongenergy wrote:why can't i like my own post? mods???

Because you are canadian

dongenergy wrote:why can't i like my own post? mods???

you can't? that's weird, works fine here.

Are bow rangers viable in this patch or is hybrid the way to go?

Veng wrote:Are bow rangers viable in this patch or is hybrid the way to go?

Hybrid ranger has never been any good until new ras came with Pd and ip etc for rangers which made them superior to assassins in a melee matchup. Bow is the way to go, but keep in mind that archers are no good 1v1 chars except for scout maybe and that's only due to slam aswell.

i wonder if they adjust the different growthrates for stealthers this time

I know you talked about optimal alb setup earlier...but would something like the following work?

-cab
-cab
-sorc
-minst
-arms
-friar
-cleric
-cleric

Would it be better to sub a cab for a merc? Or the friar for a merc?

arms
merc
merc/or 2nd caster
sorc
cleric
cleric
minst
minst
thats my bet
and yes paper daoc is amazing

Paper daoc is so amazing!

Oswaldo wrote:Paper daoc is so amazing!

the best

Setup won't make such a big difference during the 30 s fights.
Who ever gets the first crits and kills wins

Alb Caster setups should not stand a chance vs any hib grp that has a semi competent eld, since hib will always win the NS duel because of grp purge. Friar is very suboptimal in general, doesn't add much to the grp besides elemental resists.
The setup suggestion that Pweet listed above would be my bet aswell, cab makes you stronger vs every mid grp and vs fulltank hib grps while merc would be better vs every non fulltank hibgrp.
2x Minstrel because SoS on inc will double your winratio and even if they're bad players you can run 1 extra lvl 50+ pet.