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Postby shintari » Apr 18, 2016 21:24

Raifs wrote:I mean Shintari is old and rusty but Im sure he can handle playing a minstrel on a classic server


that is so kind of you! but i dont know. the points kaziera mentions sound like a lot of responsibilities and that is too much of a burden. sos on inc? i do not see how that is working with me playing fifa in between fights.

anyway, ye i see your reasoning. i was actually not aware of the setups people play these days on genesis. so thanks for that. i guess it comes down to in which realm my chances of being kept in good graces despite all the rustiness are the highest :D

anyway, will probably be a while until uthgard finally kicks off (not the beta). :wink:

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Postby Kaziera » Apr 18, 2016 21:44

glad i could help you.

Minstrels sorcs bards pacs and so on are always classes that need good players desperately.
So if you feel up to the task, you should play one. However, if i saved you from beeing coned into playing
a class you dont feel comfortable playing, then i am glad i could help :D

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 18, 2016 21:47

Well even a classic Minstrel is hard to play if you want to do it efficiently, that includes switching charm,flutemezz and ablative infight while dpsing with your weapon. People make jokes about Minstrel dmg but one hit + double dd burst should not be underestimated if it comes to the right target at the right time. I honestly think that a perfectly played classic minstrel with pet is just as hard as a livelike minstrel.

@Kaziera irony aint one of your strengths
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Postby Kaziera » Apr 18, 2016 21:52

you are mistaking me.

i considered evrything i just said a possibility ;)

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Postby Galandriel3 » Apr 18, 2016 21:57

just for fun: would a minstrel win vs a skald in this paper daoc thread?

in reality minstels have been free and easy rp back in the days
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[12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy galandriel and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks
[23:52] <Skarz> u are best skald i seen for long time

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Postby Kaziera » Apr 18, 2016 22:20

Galandriel3 wrote:just for fun: would a minstrel win vs a skald in this paper daoc thread?

in reality minstels have been free and easy rp back in the days


You mean in 1v1 or in grp setup viability ?

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Postby linwig » Apr 18, 2016 22:23

If you run a pet on a mincer it can sure get confusing. Get off a few sweet mezzes, forget to refresh pulse your pet charm as your flute is still playing Simon and Garfunkel and you now have an extra oj/red con enemy hitting on you. It's a bit like Paladin twisting I guess, if you get it right and a put a few important shortcuts on your qbar you can roll your fingers along 1234 and keep things in order. When it goes wrong it's just a cluster **** :D

Just running a pet and keeping speed song up is enough challenge for me thanks :D

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Postby Galandriel3 » Apr 18, 2016 22:49

Kaziera wrote:
Galandriel3 wrote:just for fun: would a minstrel win vs a skald in this paper daoc thread?

in reality minstels have been free and easy rp back in the days


You mean in 1v1 or in grp setup viability ?


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[12:46] <Roundhouse_> actualy galandriel and blackbeard the master challenges out on heavytanks
[23:52] <Skarz> u are best skald i seen for long time

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Postby Kaziera » Apr 18, 2016 22:55

skald.

Parry and 2h dmg with almost same DD and song utility

Though mins always can wilson with SoS

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Postby Gwarlin » Apr 18, 2016 23:30

shintari wrote:...guess it comes down to in which realm my chances of being kept in good graces despite all the rustiness are the highest :D

Shin! come hib and gimp around with smarti and me ^^

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 18, 2016 23:54

Galandriel3 wrote:just for fun: would a minstrel win vs a skald in this paper daoc thread?

in reality minstels have been free and easy rp back in the days


Minstrel will have a very hard time vs skald in a 1v1
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Postby Ohai » Apr 18, 2016 23:57

Well played Minstrels were pretty nasty back in the day
They can pretty much get 2 or 3 rounds of shouts off on you before you even get a chance to fight back. Just a sitting CC'd practice dummy for the first 20 secs or so if i remember.

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Postby Heguero » Apr 19, 2016 00:00

hello are necromancers viable in alb melee groups on uthgard? i remember that they were pretty awesome at some point with the abs debuff.

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 19, 2016 00:09

Heguero wrote:hello are necromancers viable in alb melee groups on uthgard? i remember that they were pretty awesome at some point with the abs debuff.


The biggest problem with necromancer is that your pet hp isn't shown in the grp window, meaning your clerics have to click the pet and the necro has to let them know when their pet recieves dmg. This will already be hard for coordinated grps to manage but nearly impossible if you play with changing clerics. In theory it should be viable, but the proper execution is extremely hard.
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Postby Heguero » Apr 19, 2016 00:15

i think my clerics will be able to handle it since they dont have much to do in classic daoc anyway. just wonder if this crazy abs debuff is available in 1.65

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