Well dying to blues as a tank is pretty much as low as it gets. Are tanks supposed to solo greens to 50? No, they reroll a caster to farm for their tank. Always been the way of Daoc. Midgard can 2h and cele to 50 pretty convincingly. Hibs and albs will always be slower to be ready to rvr.


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weird how the bard i pretty much raised with no farming class is fully equipped and has been since lvl 14..

Seethoven wrote:weird how the bard i pretty much raised with no farming class is fully equipped and has been since lvl 14..

lol bc comparing a bard who has no problems getting a grp to a hibernian tank who doesnt makes alot of sense.

Seethoven wrote:weird how the bard i pretty much raised with no farming class is fully equipped and has been since lvl 14..

Aka the only hib class that can group with any other class and still be an asset.


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Seethoven wrote:weird how the bard i pretty much raised with no farming class is fully equipped and has been since lvl 14..

lol amazing. that is quite the feat.

Scalado wrote:There are so many ppl complaining about these issues... why don't you just organise yourselves and form groups instead of wasting time on the forums qqing?

Nobody is obliged to xp with you.

Shazam! Why didn't we think of that before?!? Oh wait, we did but the problem is none of the people complaining are healers and the healers are mostly waiting for a focus/shroom group to join.

HatTrick wrote:

Scalado wrote:There are so many ppl complaining about these issues... why don't you just organise yourselves and form groups instead of wasting time on the forums qqing?

Nobody is obliged to xp with you.

Shazam! Why didn't we think of that before?!? Oh wait, we did but the problem is none of the people complaining are healers and the healers are mostly waiting for a focus/shroom group to join.

wrong.

1. You can build those groups yourself, even as a tank. Done that, countless times.

2. Never met a single healer who refused grp coz I was a tank... most ppl are happy if someone else organises the who and where.

HatTrick plays a ranger not a tank. And he wonders why there are no groups for him. Welcome to Daoc..


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Glaek wrote: ....... Everyone wants to run a focus shielded pet into some mobs and make level 50 ments, chanters, bards and druids. They all like to flop to any sort of rvr competition as well. Shocker.
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Sorry Glaek, I´m not high enought. My Druid is at the moment level 17, but i love tank groups and I´m no fan of Petpul. For me as healer it is boring. Heal the Pet .... Heal the Pet.... Not my Way to play this Game. I played on Life Server very Long time a Tank, so i think i can say thats a DaoC Problem not only on Uthgard. At this point i hope that the Pet pull option will be reduced, how ever.

well wait about 30 level for me

Elmer wrote:

Glaek wrote: ....... Everyone wants to run a focus shielded pet into some mobs and make level 50 ments, chanters, bards and druids. They all like to flop to any sort of rvr competition as well. Shocker.
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Sorry Glaek, I´m not high enought. My Druid is at the moment level 17, but i love tank groups and I´m no fan of Petpul. For me as healer it is boring. Heal the Pet .... Heal the Pet.... Not my Way to play this Game. I played on Life Server very Long time a Tank, so i think i can say thats a DaoC Problem not only on Uthgard. At this point i hope that the Pet pull option will be reduced, how ever.

well wait about 30 level for me

I pretty much agree with this post. I play a 46 druid as my main and pet pull groups are very boring. Although tank groups can be boring as well. I don't have a particular preference but I typically enjoy tank groups more than pet pull just because it's not as boring most of the time.

In any event, right now it is all pet pulling at end game. Unfortunately, doing the Bog for 45+ is better than CF fins but the lack of tanks and animists (probably cause of mana regen issue for ani's) has made CF fins the only option.

Last night when I logged on (EST evening) there was barely 5 players per lvl in the 40-49 range. Seemingly the only group going was CF fins. Very boring and pretty slow.

I second how ****** focus pull groups are. I actually fell asleep in one last night. Woke up to the character screen about a hour later lol

I'm really struggling here... This is classic DAoC. Pet pull has always dominated Hibernia. It has ALWAYS been the easiest and most successful way to level and PL.

With the way Hibernia started out when the beta went live with the lack of drops and of course there being no cash and crafters, pet pull really has shone. Coupled with the fact that nobody wants to spend so much time on a character for it to be deleted in the near (or far?) future. I think the consensus has typically been to lean towards making it easier for ourselves -- mana chanters, mana mentalists and bards/druids.

All I'm saying is that we need to remember that:
1) its a fresh server
2) people want it easy
3) everything will be erased

If you have the time to spend on creating a melee then great, go for it, it wont hurt.
If you want to play but either dont have much time or you dont want to "waste" too long on beta to get to max level; roll a pet pull friendly class.

barto22 wrote:I'm really struggling here... This is classic DAoC. Pet pull has always dominated Hibernia. It has ALWAYS been the easiest and most successful way to level and PL.

With the way Hibernia started out when the beta went live with the lack of drops and of course there being no cash and crafters, pet pull really has shone. Coupled with the fact that nobody wants to spend so much time on a character for it to be deleted in the near (or far?) future. I think the consensus has typically been to lean towards making it easier for ourselves -- mana chanters, mana mentalists and bards/druids.

All I'm saying is that we need to remember that:
1) its a fresh server
2) people want it easy
3) everything will be erased

If you have the time to spend on creating a melee then great, go for it, it wont hurt.
If you want to play but either dont have much time or you dont want to "waste" too long on beta to get to max level; roll a pet pull friendly class.

I completely get what your saying and in terms of the beta it makes absolutely sense. However, if no one plays melee in hibernia, then no one is testing hibernia melee and that is a huge issue. I could certainly see the devs giving us a /level to help test but I believe they have stated in other threads that they never want to have that implemented so we maybe s.o.l. in that sense.

My only other problem is your #2 to remember. If you want it easy, then Uthgard isn't for you. Live DAoC from Broadsword is for you. This server is a specific patch level near the beginning of the game with only 1 expansion released. Sure there are easy parts of the game and I would agree that PvE is that main section but that doesn't mean it's gonna be the face roll that some posters want it to be. Go back To live if thats what you like. If you wanna play the game when it was more challenging then this is the place for you.

Overall this is all folks opinions. I still play in pet pull groups and can still have fun there but I feel like there is a portion of the community that wants "easy mode" in PvE to get to RvR quicker. That's not what the game was about then and your in the wrong place. If your only interest here is to start on a fresh server then your messing it up for the folks that actually want a more challenging DAoC.

Bubbler wrote:I completely get what your saying and in terms of the beta it makes absolutely sense. However, if no one plays melee in hibernia, then no one is testing hibernia melee and that is a huge issue. I could certainly see the devs giving us a /level to help test but I believe they have stated in other threads that they never want to have that implemented so we maybe s.o.l. in that sense.

My only other problem is your #2 to remember. If you want it easy, then Uthgard isn't for you. Live DAoC from Broadsword is for you. This server is a specific patch level near the beginning of the game with only 1 expansion released. Sure there are easy parts of the game and I would agree that PvE is that main section but that doesn't mean it's gonna be the face roll that some posters want it to be. Go back To live if thats what you like. If you wanna play the game when it was more challenging then this is the place for you.

Overall this is all folks opinions. I still play in pet pull groups and can still have fun there but I feel like there is a portion of the community that wants "easy mode" in PvE to get to RvR quicker. That's not what the game was about then and your in the wrong place. If your only interest here is to start on a fresh server then your messing it up for the folks that actually want a more challenging DAoC.

I hate to burst your bubble (sorry couldn't resist) but I would wager than the majority of this servers population couldn't care less about leveling a melee to 50. Its easier and quicker to PL each others slow characters to 50 to get where everybody wants to go -->> RvR..

DAoC is all about RVR, whether you want to play classic or on Ywain -- its for the RVR and NOT the PVE content. Sure, I get that some people get their kicks from a little PVE but like I said, I would bet that a majority of players that still play DAoC are here for the RVR.

If your only interest here is to start on a fresh server then your messing it up for the folks that actually want a more challenging DAoC.

Not sure what that is supposed to mean? Play the game how you want to play it and let others do the same. Challenging to me doesn't mean grinding away on mobs for months on end. Challenging to me means getting more of the population to 50 and going to RVR so that we can compete.

Of course, this is all my opinion and I welcome you to have yours too.

barto22 wrote:

Bubbler wrote:I completely get what your saying and in terms of the beta it makes absolutely sense. However, if no one plays melee in hibernia, then no one is testing hibernia melee and that is a huge issue. I could certainly see the devs giving us a /level to help test but I believe they have stated in other threads that they never want to have that implemented so we maybe s.o.l. in that sense.

My only other problem is your #2 to remember. If you want it easy, then Uthgard isn't for you. Live DAoC from Broadsword is for you. This server is a specific patch level near the beginning of the game with only 1 expansion released. Sure there are easy parts of the game and I would agree that PvE is that main section but that doesn't mean it's gonna be the face roll that some posters want it to be. Go back To live if thats what you like. If you wanna play the game when it was more challenging then this is the place for you.

Overall this is all folks opinions. I still play in pet pull groups and can still have fun there but I feel like there is a portion of the community that wants "easy mode" in PvE to get to RvR quicker. That's not what the game was about then and your in the wrong place. If your only interest here is to start on a fresh server then your messing it up for the folks that actually want a more challenging DAoC.

I hate to burst your bubble (sorry couldn't resist) but I would wager than the majority of this servers population couldn't care less about leveling a melee to 50. Its easier and quicker to PL each others slow characters to 50 to get where everybody wants to go -->> RvR..

DAoC is all about RVR, whether you want to play classic or on Ywain -- its for the RVR and NOT the PVE content. Sure, I get that some people get their kicks from a little PVE but like I said, I would bet that a majority of players that still play DAoC are here for the RVR.

If your only interest here is to start on a fresh server then your messing it up for the folks that actually want a more challenging DAoC.

Not sure what that is supposed to mean? Play the game how you want to play it and let others do the same. Challenging to me doesn't mean grinding away on mobs for months on end. Challenging to me means getting more of the population to 50 and going to RVR so that we can compete.

Of course, this is all my opinion and I welcome you to have yours too.

My bubble has been busted! (Lol, all good)

I agree that DAoC is mainly about RvR, absolutely. I would agree with you as well that most here are probably most interested in that. However the idea of doing custom changes for QoL that will just cheapen the PvE even more I think is the issue. If all your interested in is RvR, again, Live allows for lvl 50 in 3-4 hours, you can get into RvR in one day. There ya go, no need to worry about that pesky leveling.

This server is supposed to be different.

This server, I believe, is made to be at a certain patch level that was more balanced between RvR and PvE. You had to spend time doing PvE and doing groups to get there. Not constant PL to 50 in a couple hours or entire groups sitting around while 1-2 people actually play and get everyone else their lvl's. For the beta I would absolutely agree with allowing us to lvl up quickly if people will concentrate on bug reporting and testing.

My whole point is that there is already a place for quick leveling and only RvR. That isn't here, it's on live. This server, from what I see, is supposed to be different and closer to classic DAoC where you couldn't get 50 in a day and had to spend a good amount of time leveling.

As for:

If your only interest here is to start on a fresh server then your messing it up for the folks that actually want a more challenging DAoC.

This was here because it was a reason I had heard in other threads for playing here which I think isn't a good reason.