BD crazy low xp @ 20 - 45k for yellows...?

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Postby Numair » Jun 21, 2016 21:24

Getting 45-55k for yellows in Cursed Tomb at level 20 w/ healer + commander pet... normal???? Am I losing like 75% xp from having both healer and commander pet out?

Will do further testing, but I was under the impression the xp that goes to pets was capped @ 50%.

Got 190k for a mob with no commander/no healer (killed released them right before it died)

The same mob the respawned (high yellow roaming corpse in CT) with healer + commander up gave me 71.844 xp, so in other words I am losing 120k xp? Thought it was capped @ 50%? Seems closer to 60-65% for me.

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Postby Trishin » Jun 22, 2016 00:11

It might be that each pet is leeching up to 50% of the xp (depending on dmg / healing done).
Whether this is how it should work or not, I am not sure about. You might want to research this and create a bug report in our issue tracker if you find it to be incorrect.
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Postby tvpro » Jun 22, 2016 03:33

Trishin wrote:It might be that each pet is leeching up to 50% of the xp (depending on dmg / healing done).
Whether this is how it should work or not, I am not sure about. You might want to research this and create a bug report in our issue tracker if you find it to be incorrect.



There is already one on the tracker about this.

see: https://uthgard.org/tracker/issue/1647/

please try and fix this as it is redicoulous atm. leveling a bd past 40+ is impossible at the moment cause of

1. refuse to be invited to groups
2. unreasonable xp leech by the second healpet. The BD Class is broken right now-

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Postby GreenP » Jun 22, 2016 11:40


Q: I know pets get a share of the experience when a pet user is fighting monsters. How will that work with the Bonedancer?

A: Exactly as any pet class does. The experience the pet skims off the top is related to how much damage the pet did in the first place. The amount of damage that a pet, or multiple pets, can take is capped at 50% - so the bonedancer won’t share more than half the experience with a pet, no matter how many pets he has up and running. And of course, the more damage he does directly, the less exp the pet gets.




Q: You addressed the share of experience the pet takes when an owner is soloing. What about groups?

A: In a group, the pet gets experience based strictly on the total damage the pet does to the target. The pet is NOT treated as another group member (group member experience is total exp divided by number of players in the group modified by player level vs. the levels of the other group members). It’s not much, unless you’re using the pet as the main tank for some reason, and even then it would not even be equal to a character’s share.
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Postby Numair » Jun 22, 2016 17:41

GreenP wrote:

Q: I know pets get a share of the experience when a pet user is fighting monsters. How will that work with the Bonedancer?

A: Exactly as any pet class does. The experience the pet skims off the top is related to how much damage the pet did in the first place. The amount of damage that a pet, or multiple pets, can take is capped at 50% - so the bonedancer won’t share more than half the experience with a pet, no matter how many pets he has up and running. And of course, the more damage he does directly, the less exp the pet gets.




Q: You addressed the share of experience the pet takes when an owner is soloing. What about groups?

A: In a group, the pet gets experience based strictly on the total damage the pet does to the target. The pet is NOT treated as another group member (group member experience is total exp divided by number of players in the group modified by player level vs. the levels of the other group members). It’s not much, unless you’re using the pet as the main tank for some reason, and even then it would not even be equal to a character’s share.

Thanks for that GreenP! That totally clears it up, and I don't think these mechanics are currently happening... it is a noticeable difference when healer is out vs. any other pet.

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Postby Numair » Jun 22, 2016 17:42

Trishin wrote:It might be that each pet is leeching up to 50% of the xp (depending on dmg / healing done).
Whether this is how it should work or not, I am not sure about. You might want to research this and create a bug report in our issue tracker if you find it to be incorrect.

Does ticket 1647 provide enough detail or evidence to the problem or should I make a new ticket?

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Postby Fiordiluna » Jun 23, 2016 03:09

Why a new one? i stated everything clearly, provided screens AND combat log, showing that having a FULL setup of NON HEALER pets gives a much different xp amount than having ONE or worse TWO healing pets in the setup.

I don't debate the fact that pets steal XP to their master. That can be lessened with the realmability Minion Mastery or something like that.
What the BD community doesn't like is the fact that healing pets steal 30% estra xp, each of them.
At least the BD who are aware of the issue, cause most of the suppression specced ones pulls mindless, not even knowing that they're getting half xp compared to other pet classes (which in turn get less xp than non pet classes)

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Postby tvpro » Jun 23, 2016 22:36

this is a real thing. the devs dont seem to care or give unspecific responses about pet taking 50% of exp is supposed to be that way. We know! This is something else happening. I can't really justify to keep playing my BD at this point.


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