Stalked a various amount of forums and seen a whole lot of different specs, is there one that really shines above the rest?

Considering 39 hammer/39 axe OR sword/50 LA/rest parry - this spec just seems best to swap in the appropriate weapon depending on alb/hib fight, but I have 0 experience at this patch level so it's just theory.

Pros/Cons to sword/axe at this patch level? Limited access to axe @ 50 I think is reason most go sword or possibly ragnarok spam.

I don't see the point in going 50 axe/hammer/sword (unless going 2h) if all you need is composite 50 since you will be primarily using snowsquall > icy bril with DF as an anytime.

Help me understand the logic or if I am missing something please. Thanks!

p.s. Sword vs axe pro/con?

a lot of people like hammer for conquer and may do split spec with 29 hammer, 39 sword, 50 la, rest parry. sword is popular because of the higher damage styles. hardly anyone specs axe.

toaky wrote:a lot of people like hammer for conquer and may do split spec with 29 hammer, 39 sword, 50 la, rest parry. sword is popular because of the higher damage styles. hardly anyone specs axe.

What higher damage styles? Both hammer and sword best styles are around 0.9 growth rate and on a zerker you mostly use LA styles. Nobody ever went only 29 hammer, people went split spec with specing 50 in LA and composite 51 in hammer/axe or sword, so they'd have access to 2 different damage types. Conquer is your best style and zerkers should go hammer. If the WS has been fixed and people can no longer go split spec on low realm rank, then the best is to just go hammer and wait till high rr to be able to split spec.

Valfar wrote:

toaky wrote:a lot of people like hammer for conquer and may do split spec with 29 hammer, 39 sword, 50 la, rest parry. sword is popular because of the higher damage styles. hardly anyone specs axe.

What higher damage styles? Both hammer and sword best styles are around 0.9 growth rate and on a zerker you mostly use LA styles. Nobody ever went only 29 hammer, people went split spec with specing 50 in LA and composite 51 in hammer/axe or sword, so they'd have access to 2 different damage types. Conquer is your best style and zerkers should go hammer. If the WS has been fixed and people can no longer go split spec on low realm rank, then the best is to just go hammer and wait till high rr to be able to split spec.

please forgive my 29 instead of 39 typo, i am but a casual forum poster

toaky wrote:a lot of people like hammer for conquer and may do split spec with 29 hammer, 39 sword, 50 la, rest parry. sword is popular because of the higher damage styles. hardly anyone specs axe.

kinda curious what you are referencing by 'higher damage styles' nothing really stands out to me, and for damage you would primarily be using LA, according to the growth styles info I have seen. Doublefrost for an anytime and if you are behind for conqueror it would be better to use Snowsquall > IB > AB assuming you don't need the snare of conq for initial control.

What makes conquer shine above the rest? I am assuming snare.

Numair wrote:

toaky wrote:a lot of people like hammer for conquer and may do split spec with 29 hammer, 39 sword, 50 la, rest parry. sword is popular because of the higher damage styles. hardly anyone specs axe.

kinda curious what you are referencing by 'higher damage styles' nothing really stands out to me, and for damage you would primarily be using LA, according to the growth styles info I have seen. Doublefrost for an anytime and if you are behind for conqueror it would be better to use Snowsquall > IB > AB assuming you don't need the snare of conq for initial control.

What makes conquer shine above the rest? I am assuming snare.

You don't use icy Brilliance/aurora Borealis unless you think you can really drop the guy or at least make them burn a few instants. Bleeding styles are not glorious in group rvr. If you're assigned to a bard or sorc, it's more important to keep them under control, than to drop them right away(which you most probably won't be able to do early in the fight). Spam conquer, squeeze in a snowsquall or two when you can. Once you get prevent flight, you should still use conquer as your main style, but once you do land a prevent flight, you can do more snowsqualls in between.

Valfar wrote:

Numair wrote:

toaky wrote:a lot of people like hammer for conquer and may do split spec with 29 hammer, 39 sword, 50 la, rest parry. sword is popular because of the higher damage styles. hardly anyone specs axe.

kinda curious what you are referencing by 'higher damage styles' nothing really stands out to me, and for damage you would primarily be using LA, according to the growth styles info I have seen. Doublefrost for an anytime and if you are behind for conqueror it would be better to use Snowsquall > IB > AB assuming you don't need the snare of conq for initial control.

What makes conquer shine above the rest? I am assuming snare.

You don't use icy Brilliance/aurora Borealis unless you think you can really drop the guy or at least make them burn a few instants. Bleeding styles are not glorious in group rvr. If you're assigned to a bard or sorc, it's more important to keep them under control, than to drop them right away(which you most probably won't be able to do early in the fight). Spam conquer, squeeze in a snowsquall or two when you can. Once you get prevent flight, you should still use conquer as your main style, but once you do land a prevent flight, you can do more snowsqualls in between.

oh yeah, bleed in rvr is always a no no, that makes sense

call me stupid, but if you're not 50/50 in mainhand and LA you're doing it wrong.

aksta wrote:call me stupid, but if you're not 50/50 in mainhand and LA you're doing it wrong.

can you tell us more? Why?

aksta wrote:call me stupid, but if you're not 50/50 in mainhand and LA you're doing it wrong.

I would like to hear more in-depth why you think so?

only reason to spec 50hammer is that you want to deal max style dmg with the hammer snarestyle and are too lazy to switch your weapons depending on your enemy armorclass anyway.

aksta wrote:call me stupid, but if you're not 50/50 in mainhand and LA you're doing it wrong.

50weapon 50 LA is fine, but its not the only way to spec. Not by a long shot.


Lowering your mainhand spec lower the damage you do with styles in that weapon line. So if you want peak potential damage on your rear hammer snare, then go 50 hammer. Although thats very clearly not the only option. The split specs for 2 damage types are very very valid and useful specs. Choose whichever you like.

axe vs sword = slowest sword is 4.0 spd, slowest axe is 4.2 spd = axe wins.

Numair wrote:Stalked a various amount of forums and seen a whole lot of different specs, is there one that really shines above the rest?

Considering 39 hammer/39 axe OR sword/50 LA/rest parry - this spec just seems best to swap in the appropriate weapon depending on alb/hib fight, but I have 0 experience at this patch level so it's just theory.

Pros/Cons to sword/axe at this patch level? Limited access to axe @ 50 I think is reason most go sword or possibly ragnarok spam.

I don't see the point in going 50 axe/hammer/sword (unless going 2h) if all you need is composite 50 since you will be primarily using snowsquall > icy bril with DF as an anytime.

Help me understand the logic or if I am missing something please. Thanks!

p.s. Sword vs axe pro/con?

Are you planning to solo, small man, or 8v8? - Bodyguardsback here hope I can bring you some answers with your response really depends on what you plan to do bud!

Skarz wrote:axe vs sword = slowest sword is 4.0 spd, slowest axe is 4.2 spd = axe wins.

What he said +1