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Xacrag
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Postby Xacrag » Jun 29, 2016 18:17

holsten-knight wrote:Delete and respec to endu pot!



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Postby Falken » Jul 01, 2016 11:39

Struggling to put together templates for this 1.65 patch level, tips/tricks? Typically I start with all the accessories so I know what I need to SC and how many imbue points I will need. Specifically this is for hib, any ideas what their bread and butter temp items looked like? I guess it is just hard to know what all the drops are which exist out there, even using wayback machine and looking up items/realm doesn't always seem to do the trick or there is 100% garbage.

Probably warshade bracers from sheeroe and DF diamond neck, beyond that I am unsure... Thinking realistically about what is obtainable @ 45+ or early 50 rather than raid content drops. If you need an example class, I am looking towards piercer BM.
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Nef Melody
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Postby Nef Melody » Jul 13, 2016 15:43

Falken wrote:Struggling to put together templates for this 1.65 patch level, tips/tricks? Typically I start with all the accessories so I know what I need to SC and how many imbue points I will need. Specifically this is for hib, any ideas what their bread and butter temp items looked like? I guess it is just hard to know what all the drops are which exist out there, even using wayback machine and looking up items/realm doesn't always seem to do the trick or there is 100% garbage.

Probably warshade bracers from sheeroe and DF diamond neck, beyond that I am unsure... Thinking realistically about what is obtainable @ 45+ or early 50 rather than raid content drops. If you need an example class, I am looking towards piercer BM.


Bm specific jewlery

Ring
Dazzling verdant ring
4parry/15str/15qui/40hits

Bracer
Skeagshee -12dex/12qui/7%cold/7%spirit
Warshadow Bracer - 9con/9qui/10%cold/10%matter
Glimmershade Bracer

Belts
df Belt (saphire seals)
Finliath Belt 12str/12con/6%matter/6%spirit
Bladeturn belt - 12str/12con/3parry/8%slash (BM epic quest lvl 43)

Jewel
DF
18str/10%cold/10%body

Cloak
Defender's cloak of the strong arm - The lost relics quest
22str/22con/15dex/40hits

Df cloak - 12dex/12qui/12% heat
Pookah cloak for built in dq charge
Nefcait : Bard
Gua : Enchanter
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Postby dabri0n » Jul 13, 2016 17:50

Nef Melody wrote:
Falken wrote:Struggling to put together templates for this 1.65 patch level, tips/tricks? Typically I start with all the accessories so I know what I need to SC and how many imbue points I will need. Specifically this is for hib, any ideas what their bread and butter temp items looked like? I guess it is just hard to know what all the drops are which exist out there, even using wayback machine and looking up items/realm doesn't always seem to do the trick or there is 100% garbage.

Probably warshade bracers from sheeroe and DF diamond neck, beyond that I am unsure... Thinking realistically about what is obtainable @ 45+ or early 50 rather than raid content drops. If you need an example class, I am looking towards piercer BM.


Bm specific jewlery

Ring
Dazzling verdant ring
4parry/15str/15qui/40hits

Bracer
Skeagshee -12dex/12qui/7%cold/7%spirit
Warshadow Bracer - 9con/9qui/10%cold/10%matter
Glimmershade Bracer

Belts
df Belt (saphire seals)
Finliath Belt 12str/12con/6%matter/6%spirit
Bladeturn belt - 12str/12con/3parry/8%slash (BM epic quest lvl 43)

Jewel
DF
18str/10%cold/10%body

Cloak
Defender's cloak of the strong arm - The lost relics quest
22str/22con/15dex/40hits

Df cloak - 12dex/12qui/12% heat
Pookah cloak for built in dq charge


Why no Gala jewelry/armor?
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barto22
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Postby barto22 » Jul 13, 2016 18:06

dabri0n wrote:Why no Gala jewelry/armor?

Falken wrote:Thinking realistically about what is obtainable @ 45+ or early 50 rather than raid content drops
My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with facts.
You mustn't assume that your personal situation is a reflection of every other person that has logged in to Uthgard.

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Vitticus
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Postby Vitticus » Jul 13, 2016 18:15

Nef,

What is the difference between having 50+11 blunt vs 39+11 blunt for a Blademaster using Celtic Dual styles only? Does 50+11 do more damage or the same?

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Postby Autarch » Jul 13, 2016 23:46

Nef will confirm, but difference dmg between 39+11 and 50+11 is very Weak. Now it will add more weaponskill. That s it.
Considering in 8man your priority targets will be casters and healer, Def penetration will be ok with 50 composite.

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Postby bobbylight » Jul 14, 2016 12:03

Hey thanks for this thread this is awesome! I played some DAoC and my friends want to try this out when uthgard is live again. Here is my question:

For solo/small man action, do you prefer hero or enchanter? So far my friends are planning on playing bard, eld, and champ.

What race/starting stats/spec/RAs would you go for these classes for solo compared to group?

Thanks again for this thread I never played the game during this time so its great to see all these questions!

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Postby Seksy » Jul 14, 2016 17:18

dabri0n wrote:
Why no Gala jewelry/armor?


no si yet.

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Postby mogdude » Dec 11, 2016 04:04

Want to play tri spec healer! What's the plan for race/stats/skill 1-50/ ra's? Thanks in advance!

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Postby mogdude » Dec 11, 2016 04:04

sorry 4 double post :D

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Postby -l- Edgtho -l- » Dec 11, 2016 10:06

mogdude wrote:Want to play tri spec healer! What's the plan for race/stats/skill 1-50/ ra's? Thanks in advance!


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Nef Melody
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Postby Nef Melody » Dec 17, 2016 19:44

mogdude wrote:Want to play tri spec healer! What's the plan for race/stats/skill 1-50/ ra's? Thanks in advance!


Dwarf 15dex 10piety
33Mend
19Aug
38Pac

Core Ras at 5L5
Dex2
Acu3
Mota2
Mcl1
Purge
Pr

The Ra progression depends on whether you want to spend a respec or not, but I would suggest using one.

With Respec :
Purge
Mcl1
Dex2
Pr
(4L1)
Mcl2 -> Respec at 4L8 to
Purge
Mcl1
PR
Acu3
Mota1

Leveling spec

Lvl5 : 4Pac 3Mend
lvls 5-15 Mending to 14
15-21 Pac to 15
21-24 Mending to 18
24-31 -> If you feel that your heals are sufficient for the type of exp grps you get in to, Pac to 25
31-36 Mending to 25
36-42,5 -> Again, if you feel that your heals are good enough, Pac to 35 if you feel that you need more healing power, go for 33Mending first.
At 46 you should have 33Mending and 35Pac, after that you can go for 18 or 19Aug and then put the remaining points into Pac until 50

Feel free to ask further questions if I have not covered everything you'd like to know. Keep in mind that there are other spec options, this is just based on what I believe to be the best way possible
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Gua : Enchanter
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Postby slowpoke68 » Dec 18, 2016 00:16

Just read through this 40 page thread, all very interesting. Thanks for doing this. I used to play competitively in an 8 man group back from 01-03. Really excited I heard about this server launch and excited to play...will be playing NA CST mostly. Trying to pick my class.

Wondering if you could list a couple of classes from each realm that will have the greatest chance of getting into 8 mans, based on need vs. likely population of that class. (For example, lets say an Albion Sorc may be greatly desired for groups, but there are going to be a ton of people likely rolling them. Or X class may be highly desirable, but a lot of people won't be rolling that class because of whatever reason.) Back when I used to play I ended up maining Warden because every rvr group wanted one and there just weren't that many on the server.

Thanks!

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Postby isocleas2 » Dec 18, 2016 03:36

slowpoke68 wrote:Just read through this 40 page thread, all very interesting. Thanks for doing this. I used to play competitively in an 8 man group back from 01-03. Really excited I heard about this server launch and excited to play...will be playing NA CST mostly. Trying to pick my class.

Wondering if you could list a couple of classes from each realm that will have the greatest chance of getting into 8 mans, based on need vs. likely population of that class. (For example, lets say an Albion Sorc may be greatly desired for groups, but there are going to be a ton of people likely rolling them. Or X class may be highly desirable, but a lot of people won't be rolling that class because of whatever reason.) Back when I used to play I ended up maining Warden because every rvr group wanted one and there just weren't that many on the server.

Thanks!


These are imo the classes that are desired for RvR on all 3 realms.

Midgard:
Always wanted for groups:
- Pac healer
- Aug healer
- Aug Shaman
- Zerker (no one runs mid caster group)

Usually wanted for groups:
- Warrior (Almost included it in the Always wanted category)
- Skald (Same as Warrior, there will be some groups who don't run a skald but most will)
- Tri-spec Healer
- RM
- Savage

Hibernia:
Always wanted for groups:
- Bard
- Druid x2

Usually wanted for groups:
- Blademaster (Unless running heavy caster virtually all groups will run a BM)
- Eldritch (Same as BM, this is usually the first caster added to a group so unless the group is all tank/naturalist..)
- Hero
- Enchanter
- Mentalist (Most hybrid or tank groups won't run this class, but most caster groups will)

Albion:
Always wanted for groups:
- Mind Sorc
- Cleric x2
- Minstrel (this is up for debate but the class is amazing if well played, should be in every group except maybe for keep fights)

Usually wanted for groups:
- Armsman (almost included this in the always needed category, you're always going to have atleast 1 caster who needs guarding)
- Cabalist (another class that should probably be in every group)
- Theurgist
- Mercenary

Any class not mentioned still has a role to play in RvR groups but its more situational so I wouldn't recommend making one your main.

Casters are tougher to play than tanks/heal classes, so if you're not very good on caster but want to play one still I'd recommend the enchanter or theurgist. Their jobs are more straight forward than the other casters who have more spells to use to maximize their utility. If you can play caster well though you'll often have a spot in a group, a good sorc/caba/rm/eld is worth its weight in gold.

I'd recommend a Druid or Cleric, they're easier to play and you need two of them for every group so you have better chances of being needed to fill a spot. Also tanks/casters are often perceived as being more fun to play so finding a dedicated heal class is tougher.

Good luck.

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