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burglekutt
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 by burglekutt » Aug 19, 2016 20:19
what would be a good class to play with no temp? Maybe a support?
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Zurgo
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by Zurgo » Aug 19, 2016 20:54
barto22 wrote:munchies wrote:Im pretty sure the gear wont be cap, but it won't be yellow standard either. So stop QQ'ing about this, farm 3-5 hours and you got youself a template
I'm not QQing. I'm just looking at it with some common sense. Also, where will you be farming for 3-5 hours if the whole i50 pop will head to the same place? There are minimal farm spots as it is, an influx of players will only make things much, much slower. And we don't want to slow the beta down any more really do we?
Sounds like some QQ'in to me, guess i'm not the only one on these forums to think all you do is cry lmao.
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Bebop
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by Bebop » Aug 20, 2016 03:41
Are you all having fun being fodder in your top of the line high quality df gear?
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magicbuns
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by magicbuns » Aug 20, 2016 04:51
I don't understand what I can be testing when I take ~35% more damage than the person I'm trying to fight? Maybe because I main stealther this is a huge problem? Most people playing are zerging or laughing hysterically at the new 50's they are farming. I cannot provide you with any feedback when my character explodes in less than 3 seconds, but maybe that's my own fault for not making crafters during an extended beta test...? You want me to test the functionality of RAs when I die almost instantly? Nobody is asking for best-in-slot gear, we are asking for viable end-game gear that is comparable to template....we were handed rr5 so why not full stats and partial resists? I really hope this phase goes fast as possible. I'm really glad uthgard is up and running and we have reached this phase of testing, but 91% weapons, 89% armor and < 8% melee resists will not get you very much viable data for your testing, and honestly most are just annoyed with how this was handled. But what is done is done, you will not change the way i50 is being handled, and you probably do not have time to.
Best of luck during the i50 phase, praying for a swift release of the live server client.
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Falken
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by Falken » Aug 20, 2016 09:47
Why would any of you think i50 gets rolled out any differently than i30? They aren't going to give everybody a full template of gear, despite how much sense it makes if they truly want RvR tested...
Hib - Falken (BM) / Sneakster (NS) / Kalfen (Enchanter) - Currently Inactive
Alb - Djfalken (Minstrel) - Inactive
Mid - Tooeasynothanks
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barto22
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by barto22 » Aug 20, 2016 10:24
burglekutt wrote:what would be a good class to play with no temp? Maybe a support?
There is really no right answer here. Caster would be great if you didn't have power issues. Melee would be great with better armour/weps. Perhaps support is slightly advantageous but it's minimal to say the least. Especially if you will be PUGing without TS as the group window is more than a pain. Either way, your group will be sitting/resting or running/porting way more than you'll be fighting. My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with facts.
You mustn't assume that your personal situation is a reflection of every other person that has logged in to Uthgard.
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Xenosapien
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by Xenosapien » Aug 21, 2016 04:58
magicbuns wrote:I don't understand what I can be testing when I take ~35% more damage than the person I'm trying to fight? Maybe because I main stealther this is a huge problem? Most people playing are zerging or laughing hysterically at the new 50's they are farming. I cannot provide you with any feedback when my character explodes in less than 3 seconds, but maybe that's my own fault for not making crafters during an extended beta test...? You want me to test the functionality of RAs when I die almost instantly? Nobody is asking for best-in-slot gear, we are asking for viable end-game gear that is comparable to template....we were handed rr5 so why not full stats and partial resists? I really hope this phase goes fast as possible. I'm really glad uthgard is up and running and we have reached this phase of testing, but 91% weapons, 89% armor and < 8% melee resists will not get you very much viable data for your testing, and honestly most are just annoyed with how this was handled. But what is done is done, you will not change the way i50 is being handled, and you probably do not have time to.
Best of luck during the i50 phase, praying for a swift release of the live server client.
Johndaddychimparino
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Njor
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by Njor » Aug 21, 2016 06:51
magicbuns wrote:I don't understand what I can be testing when I take ~35% more damage than the person I'm trying to fight? Maybe because I main stealther this is a huge problem? Most people playing are zerging or laughing hysterically at the new 50's they are farming. I cannot provide you with any feedback when my character explodes in less than 3 seconds, but maybe that's my own fault for not making crafters during an extended beta test...? You want me to test the functionality of RAs when I die almost instantly? Nobody is asking for best-in-slot gear, we are asking for viable end-game gear that is comparable to template....we were handed rr5 so why not full stats and partial resists? I really hope this phase goes fast as possible. I'm really glad uthgard is up and running and we have reached this phase of testing, but 91% weapons, 89% armor and < 8% melee resists will not get you very much viable data for your testing, and honestly most are just annoyed with how this was handled. But what is done is done, you will not change the way i50 is being handled, and you probably do not have time to.
Best of luck during the i50 phase, praying for a swift release of the live server client.
what I don't understand is that you don't realise that everybody has the same gear to start with ... so if you have to run into RvR right after you do i50 you will find a lot of people with the same level of gear ... which makes it even the rest of the players who understand that highlevel farming spots and crafting need to be tested as well will join you later cheers
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Jafeeio
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by Jafeeio » Aug 21, 2016 07:24
By reducing the overall amount of willing testers (because of stubborn testing rules) you are effectively decreasing the validity of testing data.
With a peak population of 100 players per realm, 30 of which are idling and scratching their head as to either how to get to the capital city without money or looking at the DF gear in disbelief, 45 who decided to wing it and RvR in DF gear, 20 who are already templated and don't need to farm anymore (duping exploits say hello) you are left with an amazing 5 players who would potentially visit some farming spots.
Are you willing to put the well being of you realm into the hands of a handful of people?
And don't tell me all of this is just posturing and we are lazy. A lot of us have spent hours maintaining quest databases, researching patchnotes, testing quests both on Uthgard and on Pendragon, lent out accounts with old epic quests to the devs, grinded tons of mobs (with the staff being uncooperative and secretive and not understanding that level ranges and drops have changed over the years) but clearly asking for ANYTHING that would increase the speed and validity of testing in this BETA is too much to ask.
You keep repeating that the server population during beta has no meaning in the face of dozens of players who are telling you they would be more than willing the help out if some reasonable accommodations were provided. Keep fighting the good fight for a nice long beta.
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soddin
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by soddin » Aug 21, 2016 16:56
Again I challenge anyone to post some fully capped templates here. And I am not even asking for a assassin temp with all the skills and stats they need to cap like hybrids.
I have not seen one template posted so it proves that capped everything is not easy and will not be standard issue on this server. This is not live and without SI capping out is not as easy as you think. Prove me wrong posy some capped templates for me.
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kaspar
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by kaspar » Aug 21, 2016 17:04
soddin wrote:Again I challenge anyone to post some fully capped templates here. And I am not even asking for a assassin temp with all the skills and stats they need to cap like hybrids.
I have not seen one template posted so it proves that capped everything is not easy and will not be standard issue on this server. This is not live and without SI capping out is not as easy as you think. Prove me wrong posy some capped templates for me.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=37330viewtopic.php?f=110&t=37336look at the second post (by Aiuta), fully capped with 99% armor you can find lots more in the albion (and maybe hib/mid) section...
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soddin
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by soddin » Aug 21, 2016 18:13
kaspar wrote:soddin wrote:Again I challenge anyone to post some fully capped templates here. And I am not even asking for a assassin temp with all the skills and stats they need to cap like hybrids.
I have not seen one template posted so it proves that capped everything is not easy and will not be standard issue on this server. This is not live and without SI capping out is not as easy as you think. Prove me wrong posy some capped templates for me.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=37330viewtopic.php?f=110&t=37336look at the second post (by Aiuta), fully capped with 99% armor you can find lots more in the albion (and maybe hib/mid) section...
And has any one have all of those jewelry drops? or is this a wet dream that will take months to get the jewelry to drop?
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teddie
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by teddie » Aug 21, 2016 18:21
soddin wrote:kaspar wrote:soddin wrote:Again I challenge anyone to post some fully capped templates here. And I am not even asking for a assassin temp with all the skills and stats they need to cap like hybrids.
I have not seen one template posted so it proves that capped everything is not easy and will not be standard issue on this server. This is not live and without SI capping out is not as easy as you think. Prove me wrong posy some capped templates for me.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=37330viewtopic.php?f=110&t=37336look at the second post (by Aiuta), fully capped with 99% armor you can find lots more in the albion (and maybe hib/mid) section...
And has any one have all of those jewelry drops? or is this a wet dream that will take months to get the jewelry to drop?
Yeah, all these hard to get Df-Items, no cap temp possible. 
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relvinian
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by relvinian » Aug 21, 2016 19:39
Jafeeio wrote:By reducing the overall amount of willing testers (because of stubborn testing rules) you are effectively decreasing the validity of testing data.
With a peak population of 100 players per realm, 30 of which are idling and scratching their head as to either how to get to the capital city without money or looking at the DF gear in disbelief, 45 who decided to wing it and RvR in DF gear, 20 who are already templated and don't need to farm anymore (duping exploits say hello) you are left with an amazing 5 players who would potentially visit some farming spots.
Are you willing to put the well being of you realm into the hands of a handful of people?
And don't tell me all of this is just posturing and we are lazy. A lot of us have spent hours maintaining quest databases, researching patchnotes, testing quests both on Uthgard and on Pendragon, lent out accounts with old epic quests to the devs, grinded tons of mobs (with the staff being uncooperative and secretive and not understanding that level ranges and drops have changed over the years) but clearly asking for ANYTHING that would increase the speed and validity of testing in this BETA is too much to ask.
You keep repeating that the server population during beta has no meaning in the face of dozens of players who are telling you they would be more than willing the help out if some reasonable accommodations were provided. Keep fighting the good fight for a nice long beta.
This is an intelligent post based on facts and observations rather than opinion. The beta population does indicate the live population trend. The amount of work the average or casual player is willing to invest to compete is also a factor. Sure casual players never dominate hard core players but they can be competitive if numbers and factors are in their favor, like ra down etc, but what is it that you all are testing? And if we can observe something about population trends or what people are doing, can't we learn from them by making it possible to speed up game play a bit, add quality of life things like map, lfg, etc, and allow people to get into combat faster? Because at the end of the day people just want a close to fair playground and the opportunity to have fun and to realize an end game. Only about 3-5% of daoc are hardcore 8-man players. Ignore the other 95% and you will have a very small niche server.
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kaspar
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by kaspar » Aug 21, 2016 22:33
soddin wrote:kaspar wrote:soddin wrote:Again I challenge anyone to post some fully capped templates here. And I am not even asking for a assassin temp with all the skills and stats they need to cap like hybrids.
I have not seen one template posted so it proves that capped everything is not easy and will not be standard issue on this server. This is not live and without SI capping out is not as easy as you think. Prove me wrong posy some capped templates for me.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=37330viewtopic.php?f=110&t=37336look at the second post (by Aiuta), fully capped with 99% armor you can find lots more in the albion (and maybe hib/mid) section...
And has any one have all of those jewelry drops? or is this a wet dream that will take months to get the jewelry to drop?
did you actually read the TPs? only the cloak is a bit hard to get (just because it's in mid frontier), the rest is df/lyonesse/barrows/dartmoor, you should have those items by just exping to 50. just do a quick google search
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