ragnarok gimp?

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aksta
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Postby aksta » Dec 06, 2016 05:35

It seems like the only weapon to use is hammer, since ragnarok has no snare and the delve says low damage? and of course, hammer might be the only weapon to not drain your endo with 3 styles?

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Postby Azoazial » Dec 06, 2016 09:08

Hammer, hammer and hammer... Well if you're a Zerker it'll be LA-Hammer/Axe for the posibility of doing crush/slash dmg, depending on your target... Savage, well I guess they will all be h2h, even tho a 2h savage is ****** mean :P

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HulkGris
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Postby HulkGris » Dec 06, 2016 23:57

aksta wrote: ragnarok has no snare and the delve says low damage

Don't give too much attention to the delve damage. Most of style says low while they are not so low.
Atm, i'm working on evaluating the GR of all style in Uthgard to fill my builder with right data.

For example, in Albion/Slash :
Code: Select all
lvl Style           Damage  Growth Rate
39  Back Slash      Low     0,815
44  Sapphire Slash  Low     0,867
50  Diamond Slash   Low     0,844
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Cirdan
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Postby Cirdan » Dec 07, 2016 00:11

As HulkGris mentioned, there is an issue with how the style data is displayed by this newer DAoC client, resulting in almost all styles listing "low" as the damage - this is only a tooltip display issue.

https://uthgard.org/tracker/issue/597/

However the OP is correct that Ragnorak did not have a rear style snare at this patch level.

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HulkGris
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Postby HulkGris » Dec 07, 2016 01:09

Cirdan wrote: almost all styles listing "low" as the damage - this is only a tooltip display issue.

Can we see the right description elsewhere ?
I'm gathering all style description to update my builder, i would like to get right data :s
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Cirdan
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Postby Cirdan » Dec 07, 2016 02:39

HulkGris wrote:
Cirdan wrote: almost all styles listing "low" as the damage - this is only a tooltip display issue.

Can we see the right description elsewhere ?
I'm gathering all style description to update my builder, i would like to get right data :s


As far as a word description, I think http://play.nixian.eu/index.php?page=charbuilder will be accurate in most cases. There may be a few that are off though. As for number growth rates, no, there isn't, you'll have to compile that yourself :)

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Postby peter1986 » Dec 08, 2016 00:14

For growth rate numbers I found this to be pretty much spot on for the time:

http://talsyra.tripod.com/daocmechanics/realm_style_growths.html

It lines up with HulkGris a couple posts above too:

39 Back Slash 0.85
44 Sapphire Slash 0.90
50 Diamond Slash 0.90

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HulkGris
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Postby HulkGris » Dec 08, 2016 01:26

When i compare what i got on Uthgard with numbers i can found on old forum, Uthgard's ones are a little bit lower.
I use the right formula i think, with capped damage.

BD = capped based damage
SD = capped styled damage

[SD - BD] / [ Skill * Weapon Speed * (1-(QUI-60)/500) ]

I will add this GR on my builder.

Btw, if anyone want to help me to gather data from test, feel free to fill this sheet :D
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
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Postby Sakimoto » Dec 08, 2016 01:54

HulkGris wrote:When i compare what i got on Uthgard with numbers i can found on old forum, Uthgard's ones are a little bit lower.
I use the right formula i think, with capped damage.

BD = capped based damage
SD = capped styled damage

[SD - BD] / [ Skill * Weapon Speed * (1-(QUI-60)/500) ]

I will add this GR on my builder.

Btw, if anyone want to help me to gather data from test, feel free to fill this sheet :D



This is really cool. Would love to see these for other realms. Wish I wasn't so busy this month.


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