Nezix wrote:

Pyat wrote:Is this a valid source for everyone here?
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/threads ... es.121505/
It is from Apr. 2003 so still 1.61 right?
If the 2000 hp over 30sec is correct it means 200 per tick every 3sec.

Yes

Source is valid, has contrary data, are you saying that it's possible that Uthgard has AM wrong?

The current implementation has already been approved by the staff. See austerims post above.

http://bardsofcamelot.yuku.com/topic/14 ... FMKrGczV9D

Everything you need to know... tbh

Love how people keep threading pendragon threads that are ****** that its BUGGED on pendragon and calling it live values... /logic.

AND **IF** you were going by that thread, those #s are still HIGHER than what uth currently is set at.

Says the guy that denies this video as proper evidence for post 1.62 am

This vid is obviously toa (patch 1.66 or later), however the bard is using SI-client(look at the end ) ...so maybe very early toa-phase or due to performance he is doing that.
You told me that this is NEWra AM, because toa introduced new ra...
I provided you evidence NEW RA came with 1.70
and besides that new AM doesnt heal the bard himself,anymore.
So this obviously is OLD ra AM post 1.62
Look at the health he is getting back.
Either this bard has 8k hitpoints or i dont know

/edit about the pendragon testing...
Sure they pointing out AM on pendra is ticking every 100 /3sec when on live its ticking for ~150/3sec(total of 1550)
Why did they change it to 100 at all? Very much looks like the coder did half the job and forgot about the 3sec, but cant prove.

And here someone is saying they fixed it for pend.
"The improved Melodies is up on Pen now. The only copy I had that didn't have a 20+ minute wait was an old one, only 1400 health, but I jumped until nearly dead, hit Melodies, and saw health actually move quickly. I was full about right when it started flashing (meaning ... 10 seconds left in it?) Not a huge test, but it does delve at 1.5s now a tick, and seems to work as advertised."

1400 health in 20sec means about 100/tick
Why should he lie about his testing, why should live coders mess up 2 times in row... questions.

the video looks accurate! my mind must messed something up i guess. was almost sure it healed for 250+ maybe i was thinking in old 3s ticks

So... even IF, EVEN IF IF IF IF IF it is 100/tick... its still set lower than that on uthgard right now....

maybe only the tooltip delve said 100? a lot of them were inaccurate if i remember correctly

Hard to tell, unless maybe someone is able to find a video from toa 1.66-1.69(old ra+frontiers) with a person having a custom ui that shows % (there at least is 1 of some ench with good quality but didnt find it yesterday)

Also the battle bard in that vid is in combat the whole time.
When people tested AM on pendragon it seems like most of them just jumped down of a tower or keep and unless they knew exactly infos by livedevs i dont think they subtracted their defaultreg?
So i checked how much of "default healthreg" i have while in combat and not in combat.
My Bard had 1498 hp, out of combat i regained 6% in 30sec., almost 90hp
And 3% in combat, 45hp
That would be ~2hp/tick ...*shrug*



And old ra are wellknown for accurate infos, right.
just the example of mcl. and its undocumented boost in 1.59 :p Besides the french community there is hardly any info on any english or german daocpage...

The famous NoSkill Video is pre NF and contains a lot of Bard PoV with AM active.. sadly the quality is pretty bad and you can't read the chat. Maybe someone can dig up a better quality version than the ones on youtube.

Nezix wrote:Also GoA occasionally added/changed things in DAoC that were NEVER in US servers (like barrels I believe).

Barrels is the only change that GoA ever done with a consequence on gameplay.
They were not able to change the mechanics of the game. Not able to patch it to fix a bug for example. They had some kind of animation tools to build event for community and add some custom stuff as a reward.

moha wrote:The famous NoSkill Video is pre NF and contains a lot of Bard PoV with AM active.. sadly the quality is pretty bad and you can't read the chat. Maybe someone can dig up a better quality version than the ones on youtube.

He uses AM at:
3:33
4:32
11:48
15:04
17:33
... and probably more.

But yeah it's very blurry. The best you could do is get a "feel" and maybe timing by watching the group window but that's complicated by the fact that other heals are going off as well. Gotta say it does not look very impressive if you watch for the small ticks that effect everyone <100 and obviously aren't the spread heals. They're tiny

so if it is less than 100 the delve was actually wrong?

Loriot wrote:so if it is less than 100 the delve was actually wrong?

its not less than 100 its not even 100, its more than 100, 100 is the level 1 of the new AM on new frontiers, old frontiers was much stronger than the level 1 new RA.