DEBUFFS MAKING ME AGRO!

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CowwoC
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Postby CowwoC » Jan 10, 2017 13:03

How do they work exactly?
If i use my str/con debuff on mobs i get massive agro, if i just use single debuffs like dex there seems to be no aggro increase. Is that how they worked on live servers? oO
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Pao
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Postby Pao » Jan 10, 2017 13:16

what you mean? debuff doesn't break root but it breaks mezz. You also agro a mob with it if nobody is there to attack or taunt.
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Postby Itz » Jan 10, 2017 13:17

In a Grp? While solo xping? Where the Mobs dmg before you debuffed them?
Debuffs should only draw aggro if the mob wasnt dmg before it iirc

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Postby CowwoC » Jan 10, 2017 13:21

Pao wrote:what you mean? debuff doesn't break root but it breaks mezz. You also agro a mob with it if nobody is there to attack or taunt.


I mean like taunt styles. If i use str/con debuff that will increase the attention of mobs on hitting me.

Itz wrote:In a Grp? While solo xping? Where the Mobs dmg before you debuffed them?
Debuffs should only draw aggro if the mob wasnt dmg before it iirc


Both, solo and in group. Just if the mob is taunted hard before, it won't attack on the debuffer - simple attacking them is not enough, has to be a taunt or greater dmg on the mob.

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Postby Caldrian » Jan 10, 2017 13:40

I feel debuffs generate more threat than they used to, sometimes 2 hits from a pet dont draw aggro from me after a debuff pull. But I cant back that up...

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CowwoC
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Postby CowwoC » Jan 12, 2017 12:44

Can we have some admin feedback here, please? I know "send us some screenshots from 1895 to prove" but cmon, try it out - debuffs taunt a ****** lot.

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Postby Magicco » Jan 12, 2017 20:39

CowwoC wrote:How do they work exactly?
If i use my str/con debuff on mobs i get massive agro, if i just use single debuffs like dex there seems to be no aggro increase. Is that how they worked on live servers? oO


this has been a bug since ages on Uthgard. The aggro-amount is absolutly over the top in regards to taunt-styles^^. On live you can debuff without this amount of aggro (as far as i can rembember you cannot even pull mobs with debuffs, only casted resistence-debuffs created aggro. so you can debuff mobs before attacking/pulling them)
you might have some time to create a quick test-account and make a new issue thread.

Pao wrote:what you mean? debuff doesn't break root but it breaks mezz. You also agro a mob with it if nobody is there to attack or taunt.


Wrong. Debuff shouldnt break any mezzes (simple rule, things that can interrupt a cast will also break mezz). Only resistence-debuffs, e.g. 50% Body debuff, will break mezzes.

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Postby Thalien » Jan 12, 2017 23:09

Debuff aggro seems indeed to high. On live it created hardly any aggro.

ANd i guess you're both right. Stat Debuffs don't break mezz on players but on mobs and pets.
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Postby Sido » Jan 13, 2017 18:04

Magicco wrote:
CowwoC wrote:so you can debuff mobs before attacking/pulling them


This was a change in a later patch level, I used to pull with insta ae s/c debuff on my necro in POC, I almost cried after they changed that. ^^

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DaQueso
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Postby DaQueso » Jan 15, 2017 21:35

Base STR and DEX debuffs generate quite an amount of aggro for me as well while spec Haste debuff doesn't
Admittedly I'm not familiar with how much threat they should produce this patch though


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