ForumBad lag last couple of days..
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Could packet loss cause the symptoms were are seeing? I definitely have that. Direct LAN connection to my router. Last night I was playing and things were working fine..then at about 11:00 pm-ish everything started going south. Red meters, LDs...even had a strange occurrance where I went LD in a dangerous spot and tried to quickly log back in. I was able to pick my character and enter the game but it hung at 100% screen loading and ever actually fully loaded. Had to kill the uth processes and try again. I was able to get in but still was seeing the red meter symptoms so just logged for the night. Did a MTR during that time and had a lot of dropped packets in the last few points of the jump especially at static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server.de |
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The most likely cause for what you are describing is a 'black hole' node between you and the server. Your packets go in but nothing comes out, so to the server it looks like you aren't there anymore and it disconnects you. There are a lot of crappy nodes in the US unfortunately. If you run a traceroute and can identify the 'bad' node to your ISP, they MIGHT be willing to re route you around that node. Many US ISPs seem unwilling to do that for non-Business customers. You can bypass the 'bad' node and a lot of others with a good VPN. I use WTFast when I connect to servers in Asia or America. The way it works is you connect to one of their nodes near your home and it connects to their node near the server in ONE hop! It's still a long way from NA to Europe so you will still have ~100 ms ping but each hop eliminated removes ~ 5 to 15 ms. Many NA players take 30+ hops to get to Uthgard. If you can cut that to 10 hops you'll VERY rarely LD. WTFast offers a free trial and shows you a comparison using the 'standard' internet vs their VPN. If it doesn't offer you a big improvement, don't buy it. If it does... it's only $5/month. Gil DaTroll - Merlin Zerker | MacDeath - Uth1 Armsman | Gil - Uth2 Zerker | Macdeath - Uth2 Armsman
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Anyone else noticing a common theme that everyone appears to be ATT Uverse customers?
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Happened to me again last night at 8:55 EST. I immediately ran WinMTR and ended up with the results below. When posting, I received a message that my "Post looks too spamy for a new user, please remove off-site urls." So I had to get creative and use (dot) in some instances. I've already PM'd Blue with these results. Hopefully this is of some use to you all:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | WinMTR statistics | | Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | |--------------------------------------------------------|------|---------|-------|-------|------|-------| | homeportal - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 0 | | lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal(dot)net - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 1 | 3 | 39 | 15 | | 99.5.25.76 - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 2 | 4 | 50 | 3 | | 99.168.141.34 - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 9 | 11 | 113 | 10 | | 99.168.141.107 - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 9 | 9 | 26 | 9 | | 12.83.113.9 - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 8 | 10 | 19 | 12 | | gar24.attga.ip.att(dot)net - 0 | 1516 | 1516 | 11 | 13 | 23 | 15 | | 192.205.33.42 - 2 | 1450 | 1433 | 12 | 18 | 41 | 28 | | ash-bb3-link.telia(dot)net - 14 | 998 | 868 | 29 | 29 | 55 | 29 | | ffm-bb4-link.telia(dot)net - 13 | 1025 | 901 | 131 | 131 | 141 | 132 | | ffm-b4-link.telia(dot)net - 12 | 1038 | 918 | 131 | 133 | 211 | 131 | | ae10-0.fra10.core-backbone(dot)com - 13 | 1014 | 888 | 132 | 133 | 235 | 133 | | ae10-2021.fra20.core-backbone(dot)com - 14 | 995 | 864 | 126 | 127 | 221 | 126 | | core-backbone-100g-fra.hetzner(dot)de - 5 | 1290 | 1233 | 120 | 125 | 143 | 122 | | core1.fra.hetzner(dot)com - 5 | 1293 | 1237 | 119 | 125 | 153 | 130 | | core21.fsn1.hetzner(dot)com - 5 | 1306 | 1253 | 124 | 129 | 150 | 125 | | ex9k2.rz14.hetzner(dot)de - 4 | 1353 | 1312 | 124 | 130 | 159 | 125 | |static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server(dot)de - 5 | 1293 | 1237 | 124 | 129 |150 | 129 | |____________________________ _____________|_____|______|____|_____|_____|____| |
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Looks to me like your problem is between AT&T and telia. Perhaps AT&T doesn't handle peering well with telia? Gil DaTroll - Merlin Zerker | MacDeath - Uth1 Armsman | Gil - Uth2 Zerker | Macdeath - Uth2 Armsman
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Gil: So it would seem.
I wish I had ran similar tests prior to last weekend when this all started so I could see the comparission. I've been playing Uthgard since release and never had any similar issues until after the servers had to be rebooted during the game-wide lag issues this past weekend (Saturday maybe?). Something has definitely changed. |
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ATT customer from indiana here... having the same issues.
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Galoda - Smite Cleric Galote - Light Eldritch Uthgard: <RAGE> Guild Leader Kevn - Runemaster Keven - Spiritmaster Kiven - Healer |
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| WinMTR statistics | | Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------| | dsldevice.attlocal.net - 0 | 1266 | 1266 | 1 | 6 | 403 | 5 | |172-10-76-1.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net - 0 | 1259 | 1259 | 18 | 123 | 1962 | 218 | | 99.24.64.186 - 1 | 1224 | 1215 | 20 | 136 | 1962 | 196 | | 99.183.77.122 - 1 | 1262 | 1261 | 19 | 35 | 1080 | 122 | | 12.83.102.17 - 1 | 1216 | 1205 | 19 | 135 | 1962 | 163 | | 12.122.157.6 - 2 | 1204 | 1190 | 27 | 147 | 2267 | 195 | | gar24.attga.ip.att.net - 1 | 1228 | 1220 | 28 | 143 | 1962 | 167 | | 192.205.33.42 - 1 | 1219 | 1209 | 27 | 141 | 2266 | 163 | | ash-bb3-link.telia.net - 9 | 939 | 858 | 43 | 151 | 2149 | 144 | | ffm-bb4-link.telia.net - 10 | 918 | 832 | 142 | 262 | 2266 | 280 | | ffm-b4-link.telia.net - 11 | 893 | 801 | 0 | 257 | 2268 | 155 | | ae6-1299.fra20.core-backbone.com - 11 | 898 | 807 | 141 | 255 | 1828 | 326 | | core-backbone-100g-fra.hetzner.de - 2 | 1169 | 1147 | 135 | 253 | 2359 | 353 | | core4.fra.hetzner.com - 2 | 1197 | 1182 | 0 | 256 | 2268 | 424 | | core22.fsn1.hetzner.com - 1 | 1212 | 1201 | 139 | 260 | 2359 | 350 | | ex9k2.rz14.hetzner.de - 2 | 1201 | 1187 | 139 | 260 | 2266 | 365 | |static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server.de - 2 | 1199 | 1184 | 139 | 258 | 1849 | 447 | |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______| WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider |
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You have some packet loss at EVERY hop! But it becomes unplayable between gar24.attga.ip.att.net And ash-bb3-link.telia.net where you are getting 9% lost packets! That is unplayable. Gil DaTroll - Merlin Zerker | MacDeath - Uth1 Armsman | Gil - Uth2 Zerker | Macdeath - Uth2 Armsman
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This morning, 8:45 AM Pacific standard time, this lag caused me to LD 4 times in a row. I lost my DF group, pretty frustrating.
I'm signing up for the free trial of WTFast and will update everyone if it works later today. yes, I'm a Att U-verse customer |
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My issues have cleared up today. I stopped playing for a week due to the yellow spikes. So far this morning all has been normal for the most part. ATT East NC
Nope. still an issue. Was clear for an hour. Last edited by sogeou on Mar 19, 2017 19:31, edited 1 time in total.
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Has anyone tried calling ATT yet? Its pretty clear that somehow the routing got changed (coincidentally during the midgard raid last weekend, hah). If we can identify the specific node we are being routed through they may fix it, considering there are probably 100+ players on uthgard with this setup. ATT is a VERY common internet provider in North America, so I would assume the playerbase experiencing this is large.
Is this issue incumbent on us (the players) to correct? It seems like the Uthgard staff should try, since they can at least maybe claim there are a business? If many players are experiencing the problem, I would hope they would want to try and help resolve it? Perhaps not though, and I do understand why to a point. Anyway, if no one has called yet, I will do it. Just want to know if anyone has tried, and if so what the answer was? |
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Blue CAN put pressure on HIS ISP to talk to YOUR ISP but his ISP requires data. Do a 1000 WINMTR and PM the results to Blue, as he has asked many times. Gil DaTroll - Merlin Zerker | MacDeath - Uth1 Armsman | Gil - Uth2 Zerker | Macdeath - Uth2 Armsman
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I did...
The results seem conclusive. I'll call ATT tomorrow and see what they say. |
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Well, it's been a week of trying to figure out this lag BS and occasional CTD.
I've tried it all, VPN, dnsflush, etc... Anyone still experiencing this crap still? Any suggestions? Please help, this sucks!  |
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