Why would anyone go into the frontier before 50?

I'm running around in the frontier in Albion on my hunter right now. I haven't seen anyone where I am.

I killed a few mobs to see the camp bonus, and the camp bonus was semi high. But for example i get 23M for killing some random yellow with a camp bonus, i can get that same xp all day long without going into the frontier.

Why would they go into frontier? Because they are crafters and they forced to?

The BGs are somewhat dead, or at least limited to max lvl 35.

So there is no reason to go into the frontier ever until 50. Except by being forced.

There is some generic bs for xp if ur keep owned and guild owned, etc, but for the most part, no reason to go there.

Factor in the fact that 75% to 90% of the population is under 50 and still xping and it is quite slow.

How does this work exactly?

I'm not going to make suggestions on how to improve things but I can tell you right now there is about ZERO reason to go to the frontier except once ur 50 or if you are forced to because you need materials as a crafter.

To get the outpost bonus you need to be near a keep your realm owns.

You have to be somewhat close to it. If you can see the keep in the distance you are close enough, usually the camps in the hills surrounding a keep will give you an Outpost bonus.

If I am solo, I only kill around keeps. Yah... I get ganked occasionally, but if you bind in the border keep the recovery is fast.

Outpost exp is awesome.

I killed a grey theurgist and got 37 rps. I will have to kill 125 more of those to get to rr2.

Just some math.

Oh lord, Relvinian found another thing to qq about...god help us...

Actually i made suggestions from 5 years back that were not put in.

And during beta i made suggestions, not put in.

And now for months i have been pointing out things that are not as fun as they could be, issues, problems, even offering solutions.

Again, not put in. Problems ignored. Pretty much one big giant if you don't like it don't play and also a few personal insults at me.

There is this thing called the law of the harvest. You reap what you sow, etc.

Guess the real lesson here is about making sure you get a good harvest off what you sew. I'm probably the only one who can learn a lesson from this.

I have been leveling in fz pretty often. Always saw others do the same and of course some mids/albs killing us xpers.
Maybe you are at the wrong area in fz?

I leveled 75% of the way to 50 in the frontiers...found the xp bonus to be a huge, huge help.

Back then when all "safe spots" were taken I went into frontiers once in a while to lvl...even got some rps when a lv30ish purp came to gank the 20ish grp haha...mcl i still got from df though

The XP bonus can be quite big when your guild owns the keep you are XPing near. We get about 1.4 times the normal XP for a mob if we are close to our guild owned keep. The guild that controls Dun Crim in Briefine can PL their lowbies on the Fins near there. Plus there is always the chance of some RPs from enemies who come to gank the XPers as an extra bonus. To do that well, it's good to have a patrol group watching over the XP group.

why cant they introduce gold on rvr kills?

This was for a lot of people a great way to get gold without having to start up a grind toon.

Did that exist during 1.65?

Unfortunately not.

You just have to come to the realization that there is virtually no action other than 8v8 on Uthgard right now. Hopefully it gets better when more people hit 50, but i'm doubtful after finding out first hand how terrible OF is for solo/small man.

A lot of people are quitting before they hit 50 due to no quality of life changes and ridiculous grind. The people who play DAoC now are older and won't put up with intentional time wasters which don't add to the experience/fun factor. Even more are quitting once they get to 50 and find out how bad the action is if you're not in an 8man. Especially NA time zone.

Ardri wrote:You just have to come to the realization that there is virtually no action other than 8v8 on Uthgard right now. Hopefully it gets better when more people hit 50, but i'm doubtful after finding out first hand how terrible OF is for solo/small man.

A lot of people are quitting before they hit 50 due to no quality of life changes and ridiculous grind. The people who play DAoC now are older and won't put up with intentional time wasters which don't add to the experience/fun factor. Even more are quitting once they get to 50 and find out how bad the action is if you're not in an 8man. Especially NA time zone.

While i understand what you are saying about OF, i cannot agree with you because OF had Character, NF sucks, everything is flat and BOOOOORRRRIIINNNNGGGGGGGGGG.

And to the others saying why go out in the Frontiers before 50, well i am having a ball killing those i can kill, while getting killed by those i can't! If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!

Lvl 37 scout, 127 solo kills almost rr2 and that is mostly in Uppland alone!

See ya out there!

Ardri wrote:You just have to come to the realization that there is virtually no action other than 8v8 on Uthgard right now. Hopefully it gets better when more people hit 50, but i'm doubtful after finding out first hand how terrible OF is for solo/small man.

Oh I completely disagree that there is only 8v8 going on anymore!
While solo/small man do have a bad time atm because everybody is so RP-gready, there has been a trend of people running 16-24 man, since most midgard elite roxxor groups add anyway and dont practice what they preach
And in these small zergs everybody is welcome