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paying 1.5p per level of PL

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woopdiwoop Myrmidon Posts: 109 Joined: Oct 26, 2013 01:21	Reply with quote by woopdiwoop » Mar 29, 2017 08:50 Blue wrote: krycek wrote:Game designed to make all classes feel welcome, especially when leveling. Sounds dumb. Where is the game design if getting xp and bonus for being afk in a group gets rewarded? It rewards power leveling services for sure. We have proper group bonus in the game already which adds quite some bonus for each additional attacker (depends on group size!). You face more mobs, you get more bonus. That bonus is not even small, its +20% for each mob which easily sums up to +80% XP bonus. Just use what exists in the game already. Everything else you ask for is free lunch again. What you refer to on the other server was a bug due to a misunderstanding of how group bonus in DAoC works. power leveling should be like it was on uth 1 or forbidden. it affects the gamebalance and makes the game boring because every1 want a pl grp or nothing. they even sell it for real $ on some sites (and accounts).

Budikah Phoenix Knight Posts: 1328 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by Budikah » Mar 29, 2017 10:52 woopdiwoop wrote: Blue wrote: krycek wrote:Game designed to make all classes feel welcome, especially when leveling. Sounds dumb. Where is the game design if getting xp and bonus for being afk in a group gets rewarded? It rewards power leveling services for sure. We have proper group bonus in the game already which adds quite some bonus for each additional attacker (depends on group size!). You face more mobs, you get more bonus. That bonus is not even small, its +20% for each mob which easily sums up to +80% XP bonus. Just use what exists in the game already. Everything else you ask for is free lunch again. What you refer to on the other server was a bug due to a misunderstanding of how group bonus in DAoC works. power leveling should be like it was on uth 1 or forbidden. it affects the gamebalance and makes the game boring because every1 want a pl grp or nothing. they even sell it for real $ on some sites (and accounts). You can't remove powerleveling because it affects balance. How else is Albion supposed to level up their gimp autotrain classes? Satanic Panic - Cleric Budikah - Cabalist Leader of Primordial Guild / Alliance Primordial Discord ---> https://discord.gg/Fa85ptj

Stasis Eagle Knight Posts: 803 Joined: Dec 21, 2016 15:28	Reply with quote by Stasis » Mar 29, 2017 10:58 Remove autotraining and most classes can do some good in a grp all the way to 50 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

barto22 Phoenix Knight Posts: 1489 Joined: Feb 06, 2011 23:07	Reply with quote by barto22 » Mar 29, 2017 11:02 Blue wrote: krycek wrote:Game designed to make all classes feel welcome, especially when leveling. Sounds dumb. Where is the game design if getting xp and bonus for being afk in a group gets rewarded? It rewards power leveling services for sure. We have proper group bonus in the game already which adds quite some bonus for each additional attacker (depends on group size!). You face more mobs, you get more bonus. That bonus is not even small, its +20% for each mob which easily sums up to +80% XP bonus. Just use what exists in the game already. Everything else you ask for is free lunch again. What you refer to on the other server was a bug due to a misunderstanding of how group bonus in DAoC works. What makes you assume that people are AFK in groups? It's not a free lunch, it's making classes viable that would otherwise need to be PLd to get anywhere. Probably AFK PL may I add. Edit - maybe I'm having a bad maths day, but if each mob gives +20% xp from bonus. Isn't that just the same as +20% overall? And not 80%? Assuming you are talking about pulling 4 mobs that is. My mind’s made up, don’t confuse me with facts. You mustn't assume that your personal situation is a reflection of every other person that has logged in to Uthgard.

Blue Developer Posts: 15816 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Mar 29, 2017 12:53 barto22 wrote:Edit - maybe I'm having a bad maths day, but if each mob gives +20% xp from bonus. Isn't that just the same as +20% overall? And not 80%? Assuming you are talking about pulling 4 mobs that is. Nope. When BAF is triggered and decides to send you 4 instead of 1 mob this will result in 4x20%=80% XP bonus for each of these 4 mobs. It changes the bonus for all mobs that come with one pull. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

thomasmgp Warder Posts: 41 Joined: Mar 09, 2017 01:48	Reply with quote by thomasmgp » Mar 30, 2017 20:00 I know its been awhile but why not just level normally? I know im on Mid but we group SBs all the time and arent all the rogue classes pratically the same? Alb isnt as bad off as Hib when it comes to population so why not just level like you are supposed to?

Moondragon1 Gryphon Knight Posts: 379 Joined: Apr 09, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Moondragon1 » Mar 30, 2017 22:52 thomasmgp wrote:I know its been awhile but why not just level normally? I know im on Mid but we group SBs all the time and arent all the rogue classes pratically the same? Alb isnt as bad off as Hib when it comes to population so why not just level like you are supposed to? Because many of the "core" group ablilities are very spread out, unlike Mid. As a result, most Alb groups have about 1 slot that can accommodate a rogue class, but if one of the other seven leave it can really shut down a group. As a result, making groups in Alb is hard enough without even starting with a rogue. But a very self sufficient Necro can easily handle a rogue. Thus it isn't about population, it is about how the group abilities are spread out more. Sent from my MT2L03 using Tapatalk [img]src="daoc/sig.php?name=Frostdragon&s=-1 "[/img] [img]src="daoc/sig.php?name=Moondragon&s=-1 "[/img] [img]src="daoc/sig.php?name=Moondrake&s=-1 "[/img]

Wishbone Warder Posts: 42 Joined: Jan 22, 2017 17:03	Reply with quote by Wishbone » Apr 01, 2017 22:08 Moondragon1 wrote:Because many of the "core" group ablilities are very spread out, unlike Mid. As a result, most Alb groups have about 1 slot that can accommodate a rogue class, Paladin Minstrel Sorc Cleric Cleric Looks like room for 3 to me.

Stasis Eagle Knight Posts: 803 Joined: Dec 21, 2016 15:28	Reply with quote by Stasis » Apr 04, 2017 12:55 Wishbone wrote: Moondragon1 wrote:Because many of the "core" group ablilities are very spread out, unlike Mid. As a result, most Alb groups have about 1 slot that can accommodate a rogue class, Paladin Minstrel Sorc Cleric Cleric Looks like room for 3 to me. That Minstrel cant be autotraining and i think your clerics will fall asleep, atleast with a buble thurgist

Vkejai Myrmidon Posts: 97 Joined: Jan 15, 2014 00:55	Reply with quote by Vkejai » Apr 04, 2017 21:57 If there was no auto training required i think we would see more levelling groups on Alb.

LeEntrepreneur Warder Posts: 34 Joined: Feb 15, 2017 19:31	Reply with quote by LeEntrepreneur » Apr 04, 2017 22:11 Vkejai wrote:If there was no auto training required i think we would see more levelling groups on Alb. AT has never been required, it is desired but you will not totally gimp yourself if you dont AT.

pweet Lion Knight Posts: 4243 Joined: Dec 22, 2010 14:07	Reply with quote by pweet » Apr 05, 2017 01:26 Vkejai wrote:If there was no auto training required i think we would see more levelling groups on Alb. Necromancer are just too good in pve . This has nothing to do with at. PL with bomb necromancer is just very good XP so whoever can will only join these grps.

Vkejai Myrmidon Posts: 97 Joined: Jan 15, 2014 00:55	Reply with quote by Vkejai » Apr 05, 2017 17:47 I agree with you , but charging plats for levels is something that most people cant afford, so they make a Necro , then they struggle to level up at lyon due to pay to level Necros and friends who will take any spot they want , when they want.