I get killed by full 8 man groups all the time when I'm solo, but whenever I "add" in a 8vs8 fight I get flamed by my realm mates and get threatened to be reported etc, sometimes the 8vs8 fight stops altogether just so the enemy group can focus me down and kill me for apparently ruining their 8v8 fight.

Why is the PvP in this game so dumb ? People say this game is known for it's great PvP but all I can see is that it's complete garbage and a waste of time.

so far i can only agree.. Not one time, they didnt kill me when i run around solo.. doesnt matter if its duo/smallmen or fg.. everyone just see "woah easy rps go go"

but on the other hand, they want to finish the "good 8vs8 fights" so yes.. as long as i get killed on sight (red is dead) i dont care anymore too .. sad but true

Because of the 8vs8 elite sees themselves above all. Get used to, and add every fight you see, it's worth RP! Do it!

People got lost looking for WoW/GW2 arenas and ended up here instead.

In a group less than 8? You are fair game to be killed - but don't you add on an 8v8 or ****** will hit the fan.

In a group with 8? Anything less than you is fair game, and anything more than you is fair game as long as you make the decision to initiate the attack and not them. If another group adds onto the fight be it allied or enemy - freak out, go nuclear.

In a zerg? Everything you do is wrong. Kill an 8 man? Scrub. Get wiped by an 8 man? Scrub. Scrubadubadubdub.

That's what I've observed at least. I usually just kill everything I see - the only time I'm content to live and let live is if I encounter a fight that is *obviously* about to be over because it's nice to let the winners earn full RP's. You can play the honor game or whatever way suits you, but you'll inevitably end up being the victim since nobody is ever going to be truly on the same page.

A few days ago a group of Albs engaged a group of Mids outside AMG in Emain - the group I was in held off, but noted another Mid group coming behind the other... both sides seemed to wait, the Mid group turned towards the fight, and so did we and ended up with a 16v16 (or 32v16 if you like to ****** about pets) and it was a fun time. I personally find enjoyment in the chaos, others just lose their ****** and rant about an imaginary honor system.

Add whenever you want, they can't report you for that.

Sunorie wrote:I get killed by full 8 man groups all the time when I'm solo, but whenever I "add" in a 8vs8 fight I get flamed by my realm mates and get threatened to be reported etc, sometimes the 8vs8 fight stops altogether just so the enemy group can focus me down and kill me for apparently ruining their 8v8 fight.

Why is the PvP in this game so dumb ? People say this game is known for it's great PvP but all I can see is that it's complete garbage and a waste of time.

Game is great.

People are garbage.

it wasn't like that 15 years ago on live, and devs don't want to make changes to make RvR less centered around 8v8, if you add the very toxic mentality of 8mans you have uthgard 2.0. this is not daoc, its WoW arena in open space.

the server isn't just 8v8 like the whiners have you believe. played for 2 hours yesterday and had only one actual 8v8. the rest of the time was roaming empty zones with the occasional spotting of a 12+ slot and avoiding it or solos.

Llaw wrote:

Sunorie wrote:I get killed by full 8 man groups all the time when I'm solo, but whenever I "add" in a 8vs8 fight I get flamed by my realm mates and get threatened to be reported etc, sometimes the 8vs8 fight stops altogether just so the enemy group can focus me down and kill me for apparently ruining their 8v8 fight.

Why is the PvP in this game so dumb ? People say this game is known for it's great PvP but all I can see is that it's complete garbage and a waste of time.

Game is great.

People are garbage.

this !

8men who kill Solos can't complain about solos adding 8vs8.
And there are very few 8men who let solos live.

I think 89% of the people who made Scouts did so only to add on 8man fights and make the "we are better than you" crowd QQ. And I think it's a wonderful idea.

With ya OP. 8 man is dumb, the mentality is even dumber. Red is dead. Simple as that.

Sunorie wrote:I get killed by full 8 man groups all the time when I'm solo, but whenever I "add" in a 8vs8 fight I get flamed by my realm mates and get threatened to be reported etc, sometimes the 8vs8 fight stops altogether just so the enemy group can focus me down and kill me for apparently ruining their 8v8 fight.

Why is the PvP in this game so dumb ? People say this game is known for it's great PvP but all I can see is that it's complete garbage and a waste of time.

the situation you described is the very exact reason why its considered great. dont like competitive 8v8? WoW is this way ->

Samirane wrote:so far i can only agree.. Not one time, they didnt kill me when i run around solo.. doesnt matter if its duo/smallmen or fg.. everyone just see "woah easy rps go go"

but on the other hand, they want to finish the "good 8vs8 fights" so yes.. as long as i get killed on sight (red is dead) i dont care anymore too .. sad but true

its more like "look a potential adder, kill it before it can ruin a good fight" no1 gives a ****** about your 200 rps :p

Shafi wrote:8men who kill Solos can't complain about solos adding 8vs8.
And there are very few 8men who let solos live.

solos who add 8v8 cant complain about 8mans killing solos
and there are zero solos that dont add 8v8.

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