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Charge buffs

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Shurtugal Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 05, 2017 01:26	Reply with quote by Shurtugal » May 21, 2017 08:44 Is there going to be any consideration for giving albion a dex/quick charge or str/con charge buff?

Lilayn Gryphon Knight Posts: 261 Joined: Jan 24, 2013 18:38	Reply with quote by Lilayn » May 21, 2017 09:20 http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=22431

fremster Eagle Knight Posts: 709 Joined: Aug 10, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by fremster » May 21, 2017 09:42 Shurtugal wrote:Is there going to be any consideration for giving albion a realistic chance to gain a dex/quick charge or implement a str/con charge buff? Fixed

Turano Myrmidon Posts: 98 Joined: Jun 21, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Turano » May 21, 2017 12:18 I guess not. If SI ever should be implemented we'll get em

Lilayn Gryphon Knight Posts: 261 Joined: Jan 24, 2013 18:38	Reply with quote by Lilayn » May 21, 2017 17:26 The dragon ring i posted is not implemented on this server ? If the ring exist you have a dex qui buff charge on alb

Grenouille Myrmidon Posts: 118 Joined: Apr 07, 2017 06:43	Reply with quote by Grenouille » May 21, 2017 18:13 We have 2, drake ring and Evern bracer. Both are really hard to get. Better get on easy mode realm if you want charges items.

Shurtugal Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 05, 2017 01:26	Reply with quote by Shurtugal » May 21, 2017 19:10 Grenouille wrote:We have 2, drake ring and Evern bracer. Both are really hard to get. Better get on easy mode realm if you want charges items. That's what I am talking about both other realms have extremely easy access to the items that can either be done solo or duo where as we have to kill a dragon in hopes of it dropping or apparently a boss in the most ****** realm.

fremster Eagle Knight Posts: 709 Joined: Aug 10, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by fremster » May 21, 2017 19:44 In all seriousness, this issue is game-breaking for the solo stealther. I already know a few people who stopped because of the unfair advantage offered to mid/hib, and i am also leaning towards that direction of taking a break for a while. I don't consider my self the best player by any standard (nor aim to be), but to be purely shot down by 90% of stealthers because of buff advantage is really zzzz. FYI i am usually running theurg dmg add, haste, dexqui, dex, strcon (buff pots), and 75 spec af charge. Waia just 3 shot me inc. poisions.... what can one do.. ?

Satiah Eagle Knight Posts: 690 Joined: Jun 30, 2012 15:14	Reply with quote by Satiah » May 21, 2017 19:58 Alcyon wrote:The item charge argument has always been an interesting one, but for balance purposes I personally believe the system as it is now is about equal when you take in consideration the three primary assassin races. The different variables of realm abilities and spec choices has a lot to be spoken for. I'm often astounded with players choice of style combinations etc and they choose to blame dev's for how they lost the fight because they don't have access to a specific charge (or only a lesser value one). When ultimately they landed something as brutally powerful as let's say Dragonfang and their choice of follow up style choices was what actually lost them the fight. So dont expect any changes soon. Satiah \| Tuthmes \| Dendera \| Khufu \| Nefertete \| Dahshur \| Nebetah \| Neterbaiu

Kha Gryphon Knight Posts: 462 Joined: Jul 03, 2016 18:16	Reply with quote by Kha » May 21, 2017 20:10 Satiah wrote: Alcyon wrote:The item charge argument has always been an interesting one, but for balance purposes I personally believe the system as it is now is about equal when you take in consideration the three primary assassin races. The different variables of realm abilities and spec choices has a lot to be spoken for. I'm often astounded with players choice of style combinations etc and they choose to blame dev's for how they lost the fight because they don't have access to a specific charge (or only a lesser value one). When ultimately they landed something as brutally powerful as let's say Dragonfang and their choice of follow up style choices was what actually lost them the fight. So dont expect any changes soon. The Alcyon quote, is it a real one ? So if we keep going on this way of thinking, devs should remove alb charges from SI before they release it ... To keep this perfect """""balance""""". To be honest, they announced a server with SI / 1.65 balance. We must admit, that on this particular matter we don't have SI / 1.65 (charges) balance for stealthers. Been like that from beta day 1, to today, that's a lot of time ... A silly quote won't change that fact. And about dragon ring : lol, just lol.

Satiah Eagle Knight Posts: 690 Joined: Jun 30, 2012 15:14	Reply with quote by Satiah » May 21, 2017 20:18 Kha wrote: The Alcyon quote, is it a real one ? viewtopic.php?f=9&t=43647&start=15 Satiah \| Tuthmes \| Dendera \| Khufu \| Nefertete \| Dahshur \| Nebetah \| Neterbaiu

fremster Eagle Knight Posts: 709 Joined: Aug 10, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by fremster » May 21, 2017 20:23 I don't consider infils under-powered because of the lack of this charge, infact i do pretty decent vs most other classes. I just think these charges totally imbalances the solo stealth world.

Lilayn Gryphon Knight Posts: 261 Joined: Jan 24, 2013 18:38	Reply with quote by Lilayn » May 21, 2017 21:00 I understand that the dragon ring is hard to farm but evern ? He is easily doable with 1 full grp , so if hib fz is empty go check out if he is up and knock him down

m0e Myrmidon Posts: 94 Joined: Jan 20, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by m0e » May 21, 2017 21:25 fremster wrote:I don't consider infils under-powered because of the lack of this charge, infact i do pretty decent vs most other classes. I just think these charges totally imbalances the solo stealth world. The Str/Con debuff poison is what brings balance to a solo stealth world without Str/Con charges in Alb/Hib. At least as long as the debuff poison is not WS/Con based. You just have to reapply the poison if a SB is using purge, or if it got resisted on inc. Infils/NS are the last that should complain about Str/Con charges, any other solo class ofc will have a disadvantage here since they don't have access to Str/Con debuff poison and most of them also don't got the 50% str - 50% dex based weapon spec choice. I also agree with Alcyon, currently it is well balanced as long as both stealther are Str/Con debuffed and Infils use a Dex/Qui charge. Nearly everytime i moved to Breifine Evern was up, so why complain about access to Dex/Qui charges in Alb? Just build a group and kill him...

Shurtugal Guardian Posts: 5 Joined: Feb 05, 2017 01:26	Reply with quote by Shurtugal » May 21, 2017 22:52 m0e wrote: fremster wrote:I don't consider infils under-powered because of the lack of this charge, infact i do pretty decent vs most other classes. I just think these charges totally imbalances the solo stealth world. The Str/Con debuff poison is what brings balance to a solo stealth world without Str/Con charges in Alb/Hib. At least as long as the debuff poison is not WS/Con based. You just have to reapply the poison if a SB is using purge, or if it got resisted on inc. Infils/NS are the last that should complain about Str/Con charges, any other solo class ofc will have a disadvantage here since they don't have access to Str/Con debuff poison and most of them also don't got the 50% str - 50% dex based weapon spec choice. I also agree with Alcyon, currently it is well balanced as long as both stealther are Str/Con debuffed and Infils use a Dex/Qui charge. Nearly everytime i moved to Breifine Evern was up, so why complain about access to Dex/Qui charges in Alb? Just build a group and kill him... Like I stated before trying to get to Evern and kill him without being killed by an RvR grp is hilarious. I personally think a they should change the str/con debuff poison to WS/Con so anyone that isn't purely str based isn't at an advantage im just talking about giving us a charge buff that isn't stupid hard to get.