At what point will devs understand that relics are unbalanced, it makes rvr bad for everyone.

I enjoy the amount of hib groups running when they have 3+ relics

:)

edit: that is all.

Meanwhile on Albion...

We couldn't even hold our one strength relic. I'm fairly sure our realm has gaping holes in our "timezone defense" in that even if we took everything, we have such weak spots where the other realms overwhelm us that we'll never be able to hold anything for any period of time during a 24 hour period. During early NA/late Euro time it seems like Alb is mostly populated by people 8v8ing.

I wish we weren't always at a 20% damage point disadvantage against people we fight, but it is what it is and I'm fairly used to it. I'm fairly sure if we actually got any relics on Alb both Mid and Hib would freak out. If we can hold our own when they have relics, you don't want us to actually have relics and give you a daily free colonoscopy.

I don't see Relics going anywhere. I think there are some aspects of it that could be adjusted, but that isn't really a priority. Currently it just gives people something to moan over.

Raunz wrote:At what point will devs understand that relics are unbalanced, it makes rvr bad for everyone.

Albs were at a disadvantage day 1 of this patch lvl and mids having the relics for months didn't help! now hibs have relics and well, i am surprised that hibs don't have all 6 by now.

it's just the way it is for alb! get used to it!

Raifs wrote:I enjoy the amount of hib groups running when they have 3+ relics

aye..... funny to see minstrel explode on inc, every fight

I agree the Relics really take away from the enjoyment of certain fights IMO. And I say this as having the 3 power relics atm on a Druid.

Disable them IMO. We don't need Relic end game we need enjoyable RvR for solo/smallman/8man/zergs.

remove RAs, it makes it unbalanced and less enjoyable for all players (except for the players with the high RR ofc). Alb is also in disadvantage because we needed to pl so much, so midgard was way ahead in RR. And hibernia has insta amnesia, so they don't need relics anyways!!!!!elf

Mid got power relis not a long time ago, runi + gb groups popped out again. Now hib has power relis again, more caster grps came back. Maybe albion gets power relics one day again, then all other realms would quit because of too many albs out in rvr. So yeah, removing relics is the only solution to safe uthgard and stop the crying of the world.

Zintair wrote:Disable them IMO. We don't need Relic end game we need enjoyable RvR for solo/smallman/8man/zergs.

Relics are an integral part of Daoc.
If they aren't enjoyable, why player form large zergs to get em?
It's enjoyable to get em.
It's enjoyable to defeat em.
It's enjoyable kill reinforcements as a solo or small man/fg while a RR is going on and ofc it's enjoyable if you have them.
Sure, it's not that enjoyable if you get nuked/hit with 10%+ dmg, but sooner or later the situation will change.
So where is the problem?
In 10 years daoc I heard many strange suggestions, but this is the worst one.

/Runen

Rather than removing relics, it would be interesting to see relics automatically reset once a week or something like that.

Get yourself together as a realm and let your farm necros in the dust for once. Open up a relicraid bg, advertise it in /as and broad. Step up and do something. Holy ******. It's like teaching kids how to walk.

If we talk custom : change then from dmg bonus to 10% more xp / 10% higher droprate and craftspeed

Raunz wrote:At what point will devs understand that relics are unbalanced, it makes rvr bad for everyone.

Struggle vs hibs huh? when couple set grps starting coming out and you die, suddenly the QQ comes about relics^^

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Relics MUST stay, they are the only thing that give some people any hope of a chance to compete.

On live you rolled a class you enjoyed and if it was totally useless you stuck it out a bit, enjoyed some rvr here and there but you know that in some months some patch will come along and balance things out for you.

On Uthgard there is likely no change coming to help so you are stuck with what you got. So if you rolled a solo rvr class then realise you don't get buff charges etc then you cannot compete without relics at all. Same goes for those classes less groupable in rvr, with relics people will get out there more and care less about group composition because you still have a decent chance.

Dont feed the trolls peops ; (